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Looking at the size of the legend characters I would say it's a farthing (though not so easy to tell from an angled picture) . A halfpenny is just a bit smaller than the later florin, the farthing is roughly the size of a 6d.

Definitely a halfpenny. The easy way to tell is to look at the size of the legend characters in relation to Victoria's bust - on the halfpenny they're proportionately much bigger than on the penny.

I see everyone laughing! But to be totally clear, please bear with me and help correct my Cu-era Vic coinage ignorance LOL - I presume that’s a ’38 halfpenny?

Indeed, thanks - see reply below explaining how I made the mistake 😞

Yes, I realise this now, thanks! Problem was two fold: 1. it’s not my usual era; 2. I was working from a photograph with no size reference of 10 coins I offered to check for someone. AND… I now need make some new Vic pre-1860 copper spreadsheets and check the coins from that era I that do have!

Not the best example but an unusual pairing. Withers 411 Bradford Workhouse counterstamp on a Samuel Fereday Bilston token.

Thank you very much @Paddy and @HistoricCoinage ! If anyone wants to add anything please, do keep 'em coming!

It's a farthing. You are probably being misled by the size which is only a bit bigger than decimal pennies today. Victorian copper pennies were huge!

If anyone is still after this let me know i have a digital copy you can have. Stu.

Yes, the legend spacing is quite different between pennies and halfpennies. See my websites below for pictures.

Yes your spot on Paddy, although what about this one 😂

Something is wrong here I think. There shouldn't be any 1838 pennies? Are you perhaps looking at a halfpenny instead? Both farthings and halfpennies for 1838 exist. (The changeover from Copper to Bronze means the copper halfpenny is larger than the corresponding bronze halfpenny, so an easy mistake to make.) Check the dimensions and weight of your coin.

I maintain spreadsheets for all my collection (specifically predecimal bronze and brass from 1860) but recently offered to look through some early Vic pennies, among which is one dated 1838. I keep the mintage figures in my spreadsheet, but cannot find a figure for the 1838 penny from my usual sources, although there appear to be a few examples around. Can anyone point me to an authoritative mintage figure for the English 1838 copper penny? Some other scarce dates in this batch of 10 seem to have overprinting (or have been tampered with) so I might come back with more queries.

I have more often had sellers who went "oops, I can't find the coin I sold you. I have X if you're interested in it instead". Nothing expensive (most recently a 1981 Bailiwick of Jersey "Square" Pound and offered a Guernsey Type set in it's place) but annoying nonetheless.

This happens more than you may think , i have had two since CHRISTMAS were the seller has sent me a different coin. I also purchased two from a major coin auction not long ago, paid my invoice to be told a couple of hours later i couldnt have them and my money refunded 😂. I believe they are nearly all caused by busy bodies telling sellers what they have who probably already have one. This one the seller was probably told ? as otherwise why would he just swap one coin that was the only one worth anything.One i bought the seller just said he used a stock picture and sent me one similar and the same year. The other a farthing he said he had mixed the two pictures up of both sides., which wasnt correct as the coin that arrived was nothing like the one pictured. I know longer expect to receive any that were not attributed untill they arrive, sad but as long as people keep telling sellers it will continue.

Definitely two different coins, a slightly higher 9, but not from what I see the wide date with the high 9

Heres my 1799 a lovely example bought recently at least EF with lustre and no problems only £20 I wish i had a 1806 and 1807 is similar grade

Looks like a real winner now , I would try it sometime with a suitable coin I am sure you have at least doubled the coins value , its not worth a fortune but there again who wants to experiment with really valueable coins.

The verdigris may not show very well in the photo. Below is another "before" photo under different light. Work is in progress on coins with more obvious/stubborn verdigris. I will report back!

Strange. To my eyes the treated coin is DARKER.

Believe me, it was the same in the 90s after Spink took over, but some collectors still referred to it as 'Seaby'!

No question, these are not the same coin.