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Perfectly normal. As Secret Santa said in your other posting, for the years 1861 to 1866 especially, there are all sorts of date widths. This 1864 is a scarcer date and has the crosslet 4 which is a bit scarcer again than the serif 4, but the lowly condition of this piece means it has very little collectors value - perhaps 2 or 3 pounds absolute max. Don't spend it all at once!

Here is a better photo of the 1860 penny , clearly showing a faint outline of the top of the 1st ‘t’ in ‘ BRITT ‘

Here is a clearer photo of the 1864 wide date penny ….thanks for your advice …..much appreciated

I agree with you both, and just enough detail to get you there. Highly recommend the Galata guides too.

I think you are there or thereabouts. There is definitely an inner circle both sides, and a CIVITAS LONDON reverse. The obverse Iegend is probably EDWARDVS REX but there is too little face/crown detail to be much more specific - certainly North class 10 or later, and likely Edward II. The North classification has been substantially re-written and subdivided in the Withers (Galata) publications which are highly recommended. Jerry

The 2023 50p 20p 10p and 1p are all considerably under 1m minted, so expect to see them on eBay at absolutely crazy prices.

Here's what I did in Photoshop:

1. Crop the picture so that only the penny is showing. 2. Enlarge it enough for us to see the detail (use a graphics editor or the free one that comes with Windows) 3. Save the jpeg so it's a file size 500k or less.

I have a Royal Mint issue mint collection with 1, 2,5,10,50 cent plus 1dollar . These are in a Royal Mint illustrated folder . Any interest in acquiring these . Dave Allan UK

Hi, I am working my way through some unidentified coins and am a bit unsure with this one. From my assessment it is an Edward II Farthing (S. 1474) based upon the crown and collar. Type 10 or 11 or 13. https://www.rodblunt.com/edwardian-farthings-classification A second opinion would be fantastic. Thanks for any help.

On my websites, I define a "variety" as a unique combination of date, obverse and reverse design, and include any inadvertent man-made changes such as repairs or variations in date width as "sub-varieties". Michael Gouby has made an attempt to record all the various date widths in his book "The Victorian Bronze Penny". He does not record any variations in 1864 date width but these date variations are so commonplace in bronze pennies that it would be virtually impossible to document them all.

Picture far too small, see your other post.

Picture way too small - see my suggestion in your other post.

Your pictures are too small to make out details. Please crop them, enlarge them, and save at a quality setting that will fit into the 500k allowed here.

How rare is the 1905 Penny with a small zero ? I recently checked all my 1905 pennies of about 100 in number and came across three , which suggests to me that it probably isn’t a rare variety . What do other members think ? The polished 1905 penny at the bottom of the photo appears to have an open ‘9’ within the date , is this a known variety ?

A poor quality 1860 penny with part of the top of the ‘t’ missing in ‘ Britt’ . Comments welcomed

Here is a photo of a poor quality 1864 penny with a wide date , is this a known variety and if so how rare is it ?

Good info! I might just do that, there are some fun things with W&M and the like too. Thanks!

That should do you fine. Unlike Pennies, I don't think there are that many single denomination collectors for shillings. By the way, I would extend your range just a little, to the start of the milled shillings in 1662 (barring the very scarce Cromwell issues in the 1650s). Quite a few of the 17th century shillings are fairly reasonably priced and this gives you the opportunity to add a few more monarchs to the run. Shillings from 1696 and 1697 are fairly plentiful, as are some of the Charles II dates in the 1660s to 1680s.

I do have the 2025 "Coins of England & the United Kingdom" for both pre & decimal. It's a good resource (well, except for pricing 🤣) but wasn't sure that I'd missed something. Thanks!

I don't know of a book just on shillings - maybe others do? A good starting point would be the usual "Coins of England & the United Kingdom" which comes out every year, but you only need to update occasionally. This is equivalent to the US Red Book. If you want to get more specialised "English Silver Coinage" by Maurice Bull is probably best, but only really necessary if you are going into all the varieties.

I started with a few type sets of different monarchs (entertaining sometimes to find in the US) but decided I needed something more to focus my attention on. So I've got a binder set up labeled "Shillings - 1702 to 1970". I know that I will never get them all, and most of what I have is recent Copper/Nickel ones. But I've found a reasonable Lima shilling, a very nice 1816 recoinage example & a couple through Victoria and Edward & the silver Georges. It gives me something to concentrate on and keeps me from spreading my resources too thin. And I'll have fun. So is there a good book on Shillings for this 'Murcan? 😇

Somehow I don't think I'll even leave a space in my "Shillings from 1702 - 1970" binder for that one! 🤣

Its come to pass that I keep feeling the need to move on with the pile of really...really worn out hammered coins. Ive tried and cant get beyond thinking this may be Edward I... on the reverse I can make out Civi Tas ..beyond that nothing comes to mind.... Any Ideas?

I thought it worth reviving this one to show another 1698 halfpenny recently acquired. As has been previously mentioned here, these are very difficult to find, particularly in decent grades, having been struck for three months only. It pays to keep one's eyes peeled…