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It is always worth ignoring die damage on a generally heavily circulated denomination in scarce condition. A few years ago I had an A/R in CAR farthing with weak central areas that I wanted a fair, but full price for on the grounds that I had only traced mine and the Colin Cooke example. Someone I know locally refused to pay so much in the hope one would turn up. Happy to report he's still waiting.........

Maybe p'ing in the wind as an idea, but given the shape of the three, is it a 3 with a damaged top half, then subsequently repaired with something like a Maundy 7 punch for example? Or any other smaller denomination for that matter? The reinforcing of existing legends is well documented, so to have such an unconventionally shaped 3 is fairly illogical, given the mint officials' mentality at the time. just trying to think outside the box given the relatively conventional lower loop.

I don't think Charlie would be too impressed with truck loads of cupro - nickel dumped in front of the palace.

There was/is a collector called Bianchi…CNG are selling off his/her collection!

I am confident enough that it is a recessed ear, and that is good enough as it is going into my own collection. @Martinminerva also expressed the opinion that it was right in a previous post in this topic. I already have an example with the broken tooth in only slightly worse condition, so I will keep both to cover my bases. Neither will be sold until I pop my clogs, by which time I won't care anyway!

I think the problem is Paddy that without the broken/smaller tooth above the colon , you would be had put to convince a buyer that its a Recessed ear type . Below is my coin which has a very slight damaged colon tooth , also another picture of a worn coin which is clearly a recessed ear, but you can see that the tooth is intact but very slightly smaller than the other teeth. If I were you I think I would try to find one with one of those faults on the colon tooth .

I'll have to pass on that question for now Richard , but I will let you know in due course

I now have the coin in my possession. Seems pretty nice condition for one of these, despite the odd mark in front of the King's nose:

Where did you find it, Terry ?

Obverse

I thought there was something in the law that said coins remained the property of the Crown, at least until demonetised?

1863 Slender 3 F44 Well I just can't believe my luck on this one, I never thought I'd ever manage to get my hands on one of these 🤩

I have to confess that’s not a reference known to me, nor Google, apparently! I wondered whether it referred to a BNS article, or similar, but seems not. Can you email CNG and see what they say? It could possibly be a couple of private collectors attempting to use their own means of die cataloging and entered this information on a ticket before selling coins? Many auction houses have the lazy habit of copying this information verbatim.

True butt he UK did it 44 years earlier if you consider the 1920 debasement and 18 years from the finale debasement of British coins in 1946 compared with the US.. Over that time fiat currencies, currencies based on paper promises have lost value. This has been true since Rome, through Tudor times to the present day when currencies are debased. Little by little like the frog in heating water your money becomes less and less with income never seeming to catch up. Some suggest crypto as an answer but this is just another scam like the banks who could never honor a run on their commitments other than printing more promises or numbers in a computer with crypto. Where no body knows where the money invested is. With crypto, if someone switched off the computers tomorrow where would your money be? I wouldn't hold your breath. Banks have similar issues but do receive some limited backing from governments

Someone actually bought this Temu Gothic Crown... from Hong Kong! https://www.ebay.com/itm/157871585964?_skw=gothic+crown+coin&itmmeta=01KRQ7VFAEVC91F9FWVYNBQEYS&hash=item24c1e13aac:g:0pEAAeSwVQJopiyR&itmprp=enc%3AAQALAAAA8GfYFPkwiKCW4ZNSs2u11xCiHPT1dIqsSUVD65WmtEkl1%2Bnl70mlRW1AmIqpbzP%2B%2BWh7qLJpsJ4EY379bCQl6EXDxG%2FtGJmxbqUrKDqbOOJteyQyptnRKYk4C1PQHMCa%2B5GL%2FVGwQyPlqMTPyzWokUHuJ4YZ0JmVYGzCHdYqG6NH2QmuyL%2FRAbCwCOIV2L0CQEJnpBSoduOCKBb3dfGEtndLTQ9OFm1MzvZjZ2LDpLas4tilOkJu%2BG5IpxJ5oqi%2BoOb0JqgBZm3cBN9bdLZDrVlOG6%2BN2npKT5vzc4jzhLP71YUsYY6%2BKYMFiLWr8tvvEQ%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR7D17efFZw

This was a recent pickup in a USA auction, I like the condition of the piece, it being much better than most farthings of that era - but I enjoy the additional cuds on Charles II's nose and Britannia's right arm from the die breaking down. Also it appears as though the numeral 1 in 1675 was repunched - almost appears to have been repunched over a numeral 5!

I like this one 😂🤣

Spoilt for choice. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/358558652610?_trkparms=itmf%3D1%26aid%3D1110006%26rkt%3D4%26asc%3D306944,304607,306633%26mech%3D1%26algv%3DSimVIDwebV4WithCtxRankerV1UnifiedFeaturesWithAuctionUnificationKatRecoVdb%26pmt%3D1%26amclksrc%3DITM%26sd%3D358558834029%26sid%3DAQALAAAAEN6CGcKcGr%2Bqu4P3Uq3iBHw%3D%26itm%3D358558652610%26noa%3D0%26plcampt%3D0%3A163059596018%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26rk%3D4%26pid%3D101875%26b%3D1%26mehot%3Dnone%26lsid%3D3%26meid%3D1760955cf15d445c9c20c591a0be71d0%26pg%3D2332490&_trksid=p2332490.c101875.m1851&itmprp=cksum%3A3585586526101760955cf15d445c9c20c591a0be71d0|enc%3AAQALAAABMOK0a5G8ov2YyaAJ0ZTwdm8qhHRmtmL3Ku%2BxbfGxScQhvr4GTifaHcB9%2BZJUPE4lB1tXFOGNSbYdMH6tq1vX%2BCwsl8S83u%2BRDMmfGKOxpztv%2FAl2bz3NwGnkcTgHyYDl4ECNo8f9%2BSInRQ64783Tso1%2FoIAFbnekL5sMdhMZ1%2Fb%2Fm1n6KvEURSYm1HREW5FdcLcxnSCm%2FrgjUWkzwi3aS7uWgbkqeZZOzj4kfyqMSDCSRJ%2F5g1kb3hfr5SCONFuESEfB2X0hmiktZoohgTRER7eLcaopQJQEV1BdPf64gSqR2MP8Z1Bl4SjLS1OdYnxHAkzB23HxdCZK2VPLdmEfmVJcZ0tgEQ5nsugwrL6WcPyTSbkQqiivAJVWePHs9WwnV1rDBWvEW8xTZjgxOeY7sRU%3D|ampid%3APL_CLK|clp%3A2332490&itmmeta=01KRPE0WGESXNN8DY8W12WRTB1

Spoilt for choice.... https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/358558652610?_trkparms=itmf%3D1%26aid%3D1110006%26rkt%3D4%26asc%3D306944,304607,306633%26mech%3D1%26algv%3DSimVIDwebV4WithCtxRankerV1UnifiedFeaturesWithAuctionUnificationKatRecoVdb%26pmt%3D1%26amclksrc%3DITM%26sd%3D358558834029%26sid%3DAQALAAAAEN6CGcKcGr%2Bqu4P3Uq3iBHw%3D%26itm%3D358558652610%26noa%3D0%26plcampt%3D0%3A163059596018%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26rk%3D4%26pid%3D101875%26b%3D1%26mehot%3Dnone%26lsid%3D3%26meid%3D1760955cf15d445c9c20c591a0be71d0%26pg%3D2332490&_trksid=p2332490.c101875.m1851&itmprp=cksum%3A3585586526101760955cf15d445c9c20c591a0be71d0|enc%3AAQALAAABMOK0a5G8ov2YyaAJ0ZTwdm8qhHRmtmL3Ku%2BxbfGxScQhvr4GTifaHcB9%2BZJUPE4lB1tXFOGNSbYdMH6tq1vX%2BCwsl8S83u%2BRDMmfGKOxpztv%2FAl2bz3NwGnkcTgHyYDl4ECNo8f9%2BSInRQ64783Tso1%2FoIAFbnekL5sMdhMZ1%2Fb%2Fm1n6KvEURSYm1HREW5FdcLcxnSCm%2FrgjUWkzwi3aS7uWgbkqeZZOzj4kfyqMSDCSRJ%2F5g1kb3hfr5SCONFuESEfB2X0hmiktZoohgTRER7eLcaopQJQEV1BdPf64gSqR2MP8Z1Bl4SjLS1OdYnxHAkzB23HxdCZK2VPLdmEfmVJcZ0tgEQ5nsugwrL6WcPyTSbkQqiivAJVWePHs9WwnV1rDBWvEW8xTZjgxOeY7sRU%3D|ampid%3APL_CLK|clp%3A2332490&itmmeta=01KRPE0WGESXNN8DY8W12WRTB1

And yet another (this person needs the appropriate treatment) https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/358558652610?itmmeta=01KRNYZFVFSVZCD2C7D3B07R5C&hash=item537bc2d8c2:g:1d0AAeSwnxZqBwHF&itmprp=enc%3AAQALAAAA4GfYFPkwiKCW4ZNSs2u11xBitEe9RDa3sc7hUT9hX%2FCOfxQKyq%2Ffk9mvXOGbDczpUO9joLFvUS2WadpYmPIOnOAlf0YszrS2sdD8A1SJuELkDUqma1VpZnEy5q4ZXojfFHwyhdE%2BTCVfVAmS%2BC97DrbSX40H4RetRi4Gu7VpPOYPQ8N2Oho%2FSa9VEl8vLNcwB7paH1zB721WMloM8o9WVt59UTO1G1T%2BdwM36QfBsO4lddL5fyB5pBoVMFq2o7jay63EgK9cPpx%2FOTWHxhuG%2FVF5GY2mna9%2BULIMUbH1ZCiv|tkp%3ABk9SR4L-_b7FZw

And this one: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/358558834029?itmmeta=01KRNYZFVF1T51NR91QWTC8AGP&hash=item537bc59d6d:g:ODQAAeSwl5xqBxWl&itmprp=enc%3AAQALAAAA4GfYFPkwiKCW4ZNSs2u11xBiu%2Bqm7HPctK6xcuhMAuQ1%2F7PFnhVwrJxQ7OcTIZRagdeVG9ww0A6GsDOGBC2h7lJvdFJVE2TS%2FyMY7Yet0qfGP2u0JoUbd3xcdheFLeB1qCEB%2B1ISyVRh34npbiyLSU3t7gMBmCXPKerHk4Y6rOAMwVNPo2JEbH7AK3Kr1LFB%2BWxOwHo9yt1HicrMG%2BLrCdtWPr5cpmaWrhRUIRCWI45LUoOmB0TJjitmwsyweas5cQUuhZpANl5TMG01bWRPZ0zmZ1GNyD0fNvtQR%2Fkmg%2BXY|tkp%3ABk9SR4D-_b7FZw

Not to mention this one: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/358558859859?itmmeta=01KRNYZFVFPYE66QWCFA3ZW1SK&hash=item537bc60253:g:eIcAAeSwauxqBxh7&itmprp=enc%3AAQALAAAAwGfYFPkwiKCW4ZNSs2u11xBshv%2FwyMxPRzdtOQFFdHImpHNiw9nBoaJY5mqr1DLfZdLQiTwfamIdaGUh%2B07oaaK2QmVXao4gjOQZMKujz3BP82038HRb%2BAjM1k7P%2B1p6Xlr2eOBfALDeUOJV25k%2Bhoe%2FsxtWybR2h5vKskY6shFfvXUWljt27wEet9ziw00PXOzIR1Co3oVYiVm5ydfa2RcGZjw3GNxK%2FzSHm73GUND6FRorxTW94rXw2sMVN4X1UQ%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR4D-_b7FZw

Same person trying it on with this one too: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/358558890892?itmmeta=01KRNYZFVEXDJJJAVW06CPZJVV&hash=item537bc67b8c:g:~xkAAeSwWz1qBxvu&itmprp=enc%3AAQALAAAAwGfYFPkwiKCW4ZNSs2u11xCC3fibdv6x%2FwSB3pJNwWmYkR4i9QVFdzzfAUIFEMnq8MGza0ozA%2FpPjvcBXVey%2B6iiUuDXGxFFCM1vF4npG5fdd8kPkCejVF6k7AriisAlkVB%2B6x3i7nBZMZhLMogjjDkV4fd0n2ZedXZiZl%2FT2LZ0AFMTMJiKnsUZcOwjcNDPm3b4jMdQTVNlbDyQSeu3It%2BC3p5UIjevV%2BgTFLraaxxMva7xtS42Rv7TVG%2Frd322xQ%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR4D-_b7FZw

Today whilst re sifting through them destine to be sold I had a moment of "Hold On!" ( I tend to do this, a lot, I just feel that I can quite easily miss something important😕) However this one caught my eye and so I washed the crud off, the Florin now reveals a ledge on the reverse, wow! now I do like a fault. a die press error? well it made my day, Have a great Weekend ☺️