Gothic Crown Anyone?

[Coppers 57]

Remarkable how much value a little plastic can add to a coin...

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[Peter 615]

Crazy price

[Gary D 76]

Crazy price

The are whooping it up over on Collectors Universe because a coin crossed and got one higher grade. Still the same coin just a higher grade piece of plastic.

[ski 1]

increased the asking price?.....yes

added value?......no

what do you reckon circa 78 grand for the plastic?

[Accumulator 52]

By comparison, there's this one at the forthcoming London Coins auction.

[Rob 3,002]

The US one has been reduced from $85K. Maybe he thought that it was too much to ask .

[Peckris 579]

By comparison, there's this one at the forthcoming London Coins auction.

How long have they been giving us a whole half second to click on their category banner on the right? At first I thought it was just my display flickering until I saw the headings were changing.

[Accumulator 52]

By comparison, there's this one at the forthcoming London Coins auction.

How long have they been giving us a whole half second to click on their category banner on the right? At first I thought it was just my display flickering until I saw the headings were changing.

I hadn't noticed this, but all the categories do appear listed below in a non-stroboscopic form!

[Sword 1,330]

Can't blame people for trying with their asking prices, esp on Ebay!

Just curious, UNC / aFDC gothic crowns are rare. Is this partly because they weren't issued in boxes? (or did the proof versions have boxes?)

[Peckris 579]

Can't blame people for trying with their asking prices, esp on Ebay!

Just curious, UNC / aFDC gothic crowns are rare. Is this partly because they weren't issued in boxes? (or did the proof versions have boxes?)

Just a guess, but every generation will have thought them very beautiful coins, so they probably got passed around and shown off a great deal.

[Sword 1,330]

Can't blame people for trying with their asking prices, esp on Ebay!

Just curious, UNC / aFDC gothic crowns are rare. Is this partly because they weren't issued in boxes? (or did the proof versions have boxes?)

Just a guess, but every generation will have thought them very beautiful coins, so they probably got passed around and shown off a great deal.

That makes sense. They are beautiful indeed.

[azda 973]

But not $81,500 worth of beautiful. Could buy a decent Mercedes for half that price

[Generic Lad 25]

-wipes drool off of keyboard-

Lovely coin, granted, its certainly overpriced but I'd love to have it in my collection!

...Christmas present?

[Nicholas 51]

Exquisite but exorbitant. How does the seller justify this? My guess is the power of the US market that looks at populations at every quality grade and proof 67 cameo would have to be at the very very top. None higher. This certainly drives up price a great deal. but its still 2-3 times too high IMO. I've Only seen 1 maybe 2 like this.

[Nicholas 51]

BTW, the London coins example is not close.

Ebay coin is graded PCGS PR67 on the Sheldon scale equating to approx CGS PR92 (much higher than PR80)

[Nicholas 51]

Also BTW, that merc you buy instead will halve in price in the next 5 years.

[Paulus 1,942]

BTW, the London coins example is not close.

Ebay coin is graded PCGS PR67 on the Sheldon scale equating to approx CGS PR92 (much higher than PR80)

The US one sure looks better, but I couldn't possibly rely on their grading number if in the market for buying it .. what's the 'Cameo' bit all about again?!

[Nicholas 51]

Not exactly sure, but I believe Cameo is a word used to describe a particularly nice proof with mirrored fields and frosted devices..

In the US markwt, the grading is what it is and whether true of not, the grade shown is pretty much the grade used by the market to value the coin.

This may change when you crack it open!

[Sword 1,330]

Also BTW, that merc you buy instead will halve in price in the next 5 years.

Alright, 81K can be used as a deposit for a flat

[Peckris 579]

Also BTW, that merc you buy instead will halve in price in the next 5 years.

Unless Lewis Hamilton stops the boring boring Vettel in his tracks and wins the Drivers' Championship

BTW, the London coins example is not close.

Ebay coin is graded PCGS PR67 on the Sheldon scale equating to approx CGS PR92 (much higher than PR80)

The US one sure looks better, but I couldn't possibly rely on their grading number if in the market for buying it .. what's the 'Cameo' bit all about again?!

A non-numismatic cameo is a semi-precious stone where a design has been sculpted from it - the design is often cream on an amber background. For proof coins, it would be the closest description for a perfect example, where the design (usually frosted) is in marked contrast to the surrounding field which is usually highly mirrored.

[azda 973]

Exquisite but exorbitant. How does the seller justify this? My guess is the power of the US market that looks at populations at every quality grade and proof 67 cameo would have to be at the very very top. None higher. This certainly drives up price a great deal. but its still 2-3 times too high IMO. I've Only seen 1 maybe 2 like this.

2-3 times?????????? Ten times maybe. Oh and btw, Mercedes don't depreciate so fast like those aussie mobiles You'll lose something, but certainly not half

[azda 973]

Also BTW, that merc you buy instead will halve in price in the next 5 years.

Still rather buy the Merc than pay for a slab number, and that's all you'll be paying for, because that coin, however nice it might be is'nt worth that amount

[DaveG38 385]

I'm a Merc man myself. But I wouldn't buy a new one - let somebody else take the depreciation. Currently running an S350 that had only 30k on the clock and cost less than a quarter of the Gothic crown. Goes like a dream, not a single fault so far as was the case with my previous E class.

[Colin88 54]

Given that that Crown is actually a cracker...what would you estimate would be the top price you would get for it in USD ....around $23,000 ?

[VickySilver 775]

The OP coin? I am pretty sure it would hold at 50k in the US given the record of some of the other 66 bits.

BTW, some years (3 or 4 ) ago, I saw a pristine S65 Mercedes which listed two years previously at 120k go down to 45k!