Let's See Your Toned English Milled Silver!

[mhcoins 95]

Here a nicely toned 1651 Commonwealth Pattern Halfcrown by P. Blondeau i have . A precursor for the milled coinage that the Royal Mint would start to produce during the reign of Charles II

[mhcoins 95]

 heres the reverse

[PWA 1967 1,841]

Dont know anything about the coin but a fantastic picture 

[Nonmortuus 848]

Not the highest grade but it is definitely toned....

[Nonmortuus 848]

A common coin but a nice cheap addition with bags of eye appeal if you like toning

[mrbadexample 985]

6 minutes ago, Nonmortuus said:

A common coin but a nice cheap addition with bags of eye appeal if you like toning

Particularly stunning reverse.

[Rob 3,002]

I wish I could get images as good as these. I've not managed a single accurate image in the past month - and it's seriously p'ing me off. 500+ coins and I haven't been able to upload a single one with a presentable picture. Even the last acquisition of the week images are the wrong colour.

Believe it or not, this is a mellowed version of Non's 3d in terms of colour. At least the black came out black for a change instead of the light grey/brown it usually does. Grrr. Yet another wasted evening.

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Edited April 6, 2016 by Rob

[Nonmortuus 848]

@Rob what are you using as your lighting? I have spent a bit of time messing about with my camera set up, camera setting, angle, lighting etc (not as much as Paulus!) and have found that the lamp used makes a huge difference. I bought a cheap day light LED lamp off amazon and some black neoprene for the back ground (as it is chemically inert). Paulus has also now purchased one of these lamps as they make that much of a difference. I really want to get a second and third lamp and try to light from multiple sources. The 3d above is as vibrant as the pictures when the light catches it but I think another 1 or 2 light sources will maybe show how it looks in hand without trying to get it to catch the light.

Set up as it stands:

Nikon COOLPIX L120 14MP Digital Bridge Camera - (Will be going to a Nikon D3100 once I can afford the Macro lens)
Macro turned on
Black Neoprene background (other colours are avialable)
Day light LED Lamp (http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00QGNCA62?ref_=pe_1365641_54848841 or something similar as long as the LEDs are daylight rated)

Camera is mounted on a Tripod and positioned over the end of my desk. The lamp is right by the edge of the desk.
Neoprene is placed on lamp base with light directly above it and camera positioned as to not cast a shadow on the coin.
For Halfcrowns & Florins the camera is about 8" away and zoomed in slightly
For smaller denominations I tend to place a book (spink) on the base of the lamp and then use the neoprene etc to ensure the coin fills the shot without me having to zoom in too much.

Edited April 6, 2016 by Nonmortuus

[Rob 3,002]

Lighting is a pair of flexible LED lamps with a piece of translucent plastic padding to diffuse the light. The kids have set it up so the control is done from a program called digcamcontrol, with the pictures exported to a program called lightbox. Not sure it is the best thing because sometimes the photo doesn't load. It says can't find a path. Then others it comes up with error 81 whatever that means (can't find the manual), at which point it appears to be trying to video(?) something. The original camera I was using also works intermittently, so it's really a case of trying time and again until I eventually get an image I can process. Sometimes it decides to use the flash and other times not, so I tried increasing the light to fool it into thinking it didn't need to flash - not convinced that is working either.

Whatever, I can't get the colours to look good, though it seemed to lose the red tinge when I put the coin on a white background. The Saxon penny I posted used a 2x2 envelope, so even there the colours are out. You can always see the join, so colours are never consistent, which is why I thought black would be good, except black is never black. Very occasionally things work, but I don't know why, which is the frustrating part.

Hopefully one of them wil reappear and explain how to use this camera. Hope springs eternal.

Edited April 6, 2016 by Rob

[Nonmortuus 848]

Oh Rob to add to my post above, I make sure all other lights are off.... no room lights, no TV, nothing. I found with the room lights on I would sometimes get more or an orange tone or would find reflections of my clothes, for example a red T-Shirt, would impact the colour of the coins e.g. a red tinge would appear on the coin from the T-shirt being reflected.

Edited April 6, 2016 by Nonmortuus

[coinkat 21]

One common issue with the George V half crowns is the overall flatness of the obverse- especially the earlier dates 1911-1919

[brg5658 111]

I have been relatively quiet this year so far with purchases, but I did pick up a new Queen Victoria silver medal this week.  Of the 90+ silver medals commemorating the Diamond Jubilee and indexed in Laurence Brown's British Historical Medals, this is one of only 3 listed as RR (very rare, approximate mintage of 30-50 pieces).  The relief on this medal in hand is just unreal --  I have no idea how many blows were required to strike it up fully on a medal press, but it is impressive.  This is indexed by Brown as BHM-3535, and is indexed by Whittlestone & Ewing as #3062.  

 

[bagerap 706]

Brandon, does Brown list this in any other metals?

[Paulus 1,942]

Coin envy as usual Brandon, where do you find these??

[brg5658 111]

19 minutes ago, bagerap said:

Brandon, does Brown list this in any other metals?

Brown only lists this medal as having been struck in Silver.  BUT, I have found a handful of copper examples floating around via web searches -- supposedly unlisted and dating to 1897, but quite possibly later restrikes since the copper pieces are not indexed in any of the medal books.  Actually though, I cannot find another silver example in any easily accessible auction records or online searches.

[Garrett 76]

My new Seaby envelope from the 50's arrived today and this Anne crown came with it.

This is the dealer image.  The reverse image does not show the toning as it is dark, and the dealer looks to have used a bright light for the pic.

I really need to buy a camera.  Can any coinaholic out there tell me how to not spend camera money on a coin ? 

Have a good weekend everyone

[Nordle11 564]

5 hours ago, brg5658 said:

I have been relatively quiet this year so far with purchases, but I did pick up a new Queen Victoria silver medal this week.  Of the 90+ silver medals commemorating the Diamond Jubilee and indexed in Laurence Brown's British Historical Medals, this is one of only 3 listed as RR (very rare, approximate mintage of 30-50 pieces).  The relief on this medal in hand is just unreal --  I have no idea how many blows were required to strike it up fully on a medal press, but it is impressive.  This is indexed by Brown as BHM-3535, and is indexed by Whittlestone & Ewing as #3062.  

No equine Brandon? 

Very impressive medal though, and pictures as always.

[mrbadexample 985]

2 hours ago, Garrett said:

Can any coinaholic out there tell me how to not spend camera money on a coin ? 

Cameras can be borrowed.

[IanB 175]

I think some people on here scan their coins on a printer somehow. I have never done it but I am sure someone can explain the best dpi needed etc.

 

 

[Nutsaboutcoins 105]

2 hours ago, IanB said:

I think some people on here scan their coins on a printer somehow. I have never done it but I am sure someone can explain the best dpi needed etc.

I have scanned coins and medals for speed but I'm never happy with the results, there again I'm not much happier with my photos 

[Paulus 1,942]

Seller's pic for now ...

[Peter 615]

Looks very nice Paulus. Bring it on postie.

[coinkat 21]

nice crown Garrett

[Paulus 1,942]

No hearts sixpence upgrade just landed 

[Peter 615]

Paul

Nice...was it an ebay BIN purchase?