damian1986 Posted January 27, 2015 Posted January 27, 2015 Genuine mint error?http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Elizabeth-II-2-New-Pence-Twopence-1971-Planchet-Clip-Mint-Error-Nice-Grade-658/291115600633?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140122125356%26meid%3Da687f99f644241dabfa6bd58780dc05b%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D6%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D251773638499&rt=ncI saw one clipped twopence from a seller called mastercraftsman and thought... probably best leaving that one Quote
Rob Posted January 27, 2015 Posted January 27, 2015 As long as the missing arc is the same radius as the coin in question it is likely to be genuine. Quote
Mr T Posted January 27, 2015 Posted January 27, 2015 Looks real to me too - I think fishtailing near the clip is a characteristic of genuine clips and N and E of NEW certainly have fishtailing. Quote
Nordle11 Posted January 27, 2015 Posted January 27, 2015 Indeed, as does the beading.This and Rob's methods of checking should oust any fake you have! Quote
VickySilver Posted January 27, 2015 Posted January 27, 2015 Not a lot of value I would think. I got a bunch of these in diff. denoms and some with multi-clips that I got in a lot. Bleh... Quote
PWA 1967 Posted January 27, 2015 Posted January 27, 2015 I disagree the planchet error does not show signs of flattening as that does. Quote
DaveG38 Posted January 27, 2015 Posted January 27, 2015 Personally, I don't like the curve on the cut. It doesn't look even to me, and it tends to curve inwards again slightly at both ends. Quote
alma Posted January 27, 2015 Posted January 27, 2015 T have an 1869 clipped penny.Clear date only.Was clipping common in those days? Quote
Rob Posted January 27, 2015 Posted January 27, 2015 T have an 1869 clipped penny.Clear date only.Was clipping common in those days?It can happen at any time on any denomination. They occur when the sheet of bronze used for making blanks is insufficiently displaced in whatever direction to clear a previously punched section of the sheet by the blank cutting tool. Quote
VickySilver Posted January 27, 2015 Posted January 27, 2015 Dave, I think that may be a bit of an optical illusion in that the edge or "rim" portion that is clipped makes it appear to reverse clip curvature. Quote
azda Posted January 27, 2015 Posted January 27, 2015 Personally i don't see what the fuss is about, i'd be throwing it in the skip 1 Quote
just.me Posted January 27, 2015 Posted January 27, 2015 Genuine mint error?http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Elizabeth-II-2-New-Pence-Twopence-1971-Planchet-Clip-Mint-Error-Nice-Grade-658/291115600633?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140122125356%26meid%3Da687f99f644241dabfa6bd58780dc05b%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D6%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D251773638499&rt=ncI saw one clipped twopence from a seller called mastercraftsman and thought... probably best leaving that one looks good to me, most of the time the rim of the coin narrows to the edge of the clip as can be seen on the reverse the best on this coin. Most manufactured ones have a full squared edge to the rims. Quite often too, on the opposite side from the clip it can show a slight weakness to the strike of the rim (I don't know why, but if anyone has an answer to whay that is I'd be interested to know.). Because of the sheer volume of 1971 bronze that was minted, this is the most common date to find with clips. There is actually a 1971 unopened roll of 1/2pences on eBay just now for sale with the clipped coin half way down the roll http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VERY-RARE-ROYAL-MINT-ERROR-CLIPPED-PLANCHET-SEALED-IN-HALF-PENNY-ROLL-/201267361982?pt=UK_Coins_BritishMilled_RL&hash=item2edc7838be Quote
DaveG38 Posted January 27, 2015 Posted January 27, 2015 Dave, I think that may be a bit of an optical illusion in that the edge or "rim" portion that is clipped makes it appear to reverse clip curvature.You may be right - I'm just going by the angle and the apparent shape. In hand is the only way to say. Quote
damian1986 Posted January 27, 2015 Author Posted January 27, 2015 (edited) Thanks all.The new 2p error aside there aren't many interesting brass / bronze coins post 1970 so I'm on the lookout for errors.A nice brockage, off-metal strikes, small flan strikes and finally mis-struck flans such as these.The clipped flan is interesting enough but weighing it all up I don't think £30 for a 1971 2p is remotely sane unless a brockage, could do 3 figures for one of those. £75 for the roll of 2ps is optimistic! Don't mind paying a bit extra for something interesting though. Edited January 27, 2015 by damian1986 Quote
VickySilver Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 For some reason I like the off metal strikes like the 10p struck on a 2p planchet & such... Quote
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