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[jelida]

3 minutes ago, zookeeperz said:

Looks like F29, and the Britannia is much better preserved vis a vis the shield, conforming to Mikes observation.

Jerry

[zookeeperz]

4 minutes ago, jelida said:

Looks like F29, and the Britannia is much better preserved vis a vis the shield, conforming to Mikes observation.

Jerry

F26 i think it is obv 5 rev D

 

[1949threepence]

6 hours ago, jelida said:

Thanks Bernie, that is a very useful and relevant insight!

Jerry

It is indeed. Thanks Bernie. 

[jelida]

9 hours ago, zookeeperz said:

F26 i think it is obv 5 rev D

 

Quite right, must put my glasses on! But it still shows the different wear pattern nicely! 😇 

Jerry

[Paddy]

This one was in a job lot and cost me nothing. Trying out my variety detection skills, I think I get this to be 6 and H - Freeman 67 - am I right?

The neck seems to narrow to be Obverse 7 or 8 and the narrow date is the feature of Reverse H... I know it is RANG by Peter's standards, but we have to start somewhere!

 

[terrysoldpennies]

It looks like a Gouby K+Ja  a  Variety of the Freeman 7+h

[PWA 1967]

This is were i am still trying to work them out  1874 

Are you sure that is a Ja reverse Terry ?.

Edited April 18, 2018 by PWA 1967

[terrysoldpennies]

Hi Pete, the Ja often has a slightly rotated N in ONE as this example also has, so as the coin is both worn and damaged, and I couldn't be sure, I said it looks like a Ja, ????? 

[PWA 1967]

1 minute ago, terrysoldpennies said:

Hi Pete, the Ja often has a slightly rotated N in ONE as this example also has, so as the coin is both worn and damaged, and I couldn't be sure, I said it looks like a Ja, ????? 

Thanks Terry .

It was the helmet really that i looked at the one pictured looks curved rather than the Ja that is straight.

I am often wrong though 

[1949threepence]

2 hours ago, Paddy said:

This one was in a job lot and cost me nothing. Trying out my variety detection skills, I think I get this to be 6 and H - Freeman 67 - am I right?

The neck seems to narrow to be Obverse 7 or 8 and the narrow date is the feature of Reverse H... I know it is RANG by Peter's standards, but we have to start somewhere!

 

Freeman 72, Paddy - 7 + H. The neck can be deceptive on worn coins. 

[Paddy]

Just now, 1949threepence said:

Freeman 72, Paddy - 7 + H. The neck can be deceptive on worn coins. 

OK - I will take the consensus and go back to school! 

Grotty though it is, it will be in my collection for now as 7+H was not one I had before. (Now in the penny folder.)

 

[terrysoldpennies]

I can say its a definite Obverse 7 as its the older portrait of Victoria and the gap between Victorias head and the out edge of the coin is large, on the 6 its quite close

[1949threepence]

13 minutes ago, Paddy said:

OK - I will take the consensus and go back to school! 

Grotty though it is, it will be in my collection for now as 7+H was not one I had before. (Now in the penny folder.)

 

Incidentally, with regard to the Gouby ja, Goubt describes the j as "Underneath of Brit's helmet as concave" and ja as "Underneath of Brit's helmet upright".

[zookeeperz]

39 minutes ago, 1949threepence said:

Incidentally, with regard to the Gouby ja, Goubt describes the j as "Underneath of Brit's helmet as concave" and ja as "Underneath of Brit's helmet upright".

Yes I think he's talking about the back of the lower section the J looks like )   and Ja looks like ( . That's how I understand it. but even knowing that I can never see it lol.

 

[1949threepence]

1 hour ago, zookeeperz said:

Yes I think he's talking about the back of the lower section the J looks like )   and Ja looks like ( . That's how I understand it. but even knowing that I can never see it lol.

 

Some of these differences are very subtle.

[PWA 1967]

3 minutes ago, 1949threepence said:

Some of these differences are very subtle.

So i am not banging my head in a wall Mike the picture is NOT a Ja ?

[jelida]

Comparing it with mine, NOT a Ja. This is a close-up of the helmet of my F72 Ja, quite different shape below the plume.

Jerry

[1949threepence]

8 hours ago, PWA 1967 said:

So i am not banging my head in a wall Mike the picture is NOT a Ja ?

Don't know either way Pete.

[PWA 1967]

7 hours ago, 1949threepence said:

Don't know either way Pete.

 Think your just winding me up.

I didnt think it was and Jerry seems to agree.

All good fun but sometimes i start to doubt myself so the forum an easy option to ask questions..........if you get the answers 

[PWA 1967]

Good article in coin news Richard and well explained with the pictures.

Be good if someone could follow it on with something else as i think coin news is short of something a bit different.

I know Peck did a few and Richard done one previously ,also Dave has another article in this month on the £1.

HAT OFF 

Pete.

[secret santa]

Thanks Pete.

[Unwilling Numismatist]

Well done Richard, it was a damn good read!

[secret santa]

15 minutes ago, Unwilling Numismatist said:

it was a damn good read!

I think that may be taking things a bit too far ! Definitely one for the geeks.

[Unwilling Numismatist]

Just now, secret santa said:

I think that may be taking things a bit too far ! Definitely one for the geeks.

Shows I'm definitely switching sides slowly but surely

 

 

[PWA 1967]

1 minute ago, Unwilling Numismatist said:

Shows I'm definitely switching sides slowly but surely

 

 

Well instead of being on here start looking for one and then you can sell it me