1949threepence Posted January 4, 2020 Posted January 4, 2020 2 hours ago, terrysoldpennies said: O don't we all want to find the rare ones, but to put it into perspective , if you add all of the reverse F types the F19 F24 F27 F32 the sum total of 48 coins are at present known, so the rev.F is always Rare , but keep looking there must be more still to be found out there. Very occasionally one does randomly show up. But those moments are as rare as the coins themselves. 1 Quote
blakeyboy Posted January 4, 2020 Posted January 4, 2020 Or somebody turning up at a Recording Studio tech weekend with a bottle of 24 year old Port Ellen.....it happened, and won't happen again..... 2 Quote
alfnail Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) Mike is right they do occasionally show up. I have bought an F24, F27 and F32 on ebay in the past 5 years.... only 1 of these was spotted by other bidders... so the total for all three was only around £500.....bargains can still be found, although it is increasingly difficult with so many people now playing the game Edited January 5, 2020 by alfnail 2 Quote
Iannich48 Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) I guess that lots of us have all bought coins on ebay that look like rarities, but when we get then in hand, they are not. My closest to a complete steal was an 1862 1/2 pence for £2. There is a mark to the left of the lighthouse that could be a letter A if you look at a certain angle, but i don't think that it is. The coin is in vg condition. Still, i like the coin because it is an interesting one. Edited January 5, 2020 by Iannich48 Quote
1949threepence Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 48 minutes ago, alfnail said: Mike is right they do occasionally show up. I have bought an F24, F27 and F32 on ebay in the past 5 years.... only 1 of these was spotted by other bidders... so the total for all three was only around £500.....bargains can still be found, although it is increasingly difficult with so many people now playing the game That's an impressive haul, Ian. Quote
alfnail Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 Thanks Mike, I just kept the one with the best reverse 4 Quote
1949threepence Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 21 hours ago, alfnail said: Thanks Mike, I just kept the one with the best reverse To get an F32 in that condition is fantastic. What a superb specimen. Quote
Iannich48 Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 And you got the F32 quite cheap? Wow, somebody let that get away. 1 Quote
blakeyboy Posted January 7, 2020 Posted January 7, 2020 This forum is sometimes the best Envy Management Course available. It should be on the NHS. 1 3 Quote
jelida Posted January 7, 2020 Posted January 7, 2020 4 hours ago, blakeyboy said: It should be on the NHS. I’ve got the NHS to thank for all my pennies...........🤩 Jerry 2 Quote
blakeyboy Posted January 8, 2020 Posted January 8, 2020 Found this the other day- small 8 over larger 8??? In the hand it's really clear, but a pig to photograph! Quote
Martinminerva Posted January 8, 2020 Posted January 8, 2020 Very interesting. Looks like the final 1 is over another 1 too, which is mentioned in Freeman for this 6+G pairing, but not your 8 over. Wonder if it actually an 8 over an inverted 8 ?? That is known on some 1862 farthings, for example, and is another of those recutting slips the mint were prone to in the early years of the bronze coinage... Quote
blakeyboy Posted January 9, 2020 Posted January 9, 2020 I bet it's worth nothing, until there are about 20 known, when the price then goes crazy. I have a few one-offs that I'm sitting on just in case....:) Quote
1949threepence Posted January 10, 2020 Posted January 10, 2020 (edited) 17 hours ago, blakeyboy said: I bet it's worth nothing, until there are about 20 known, when the price then goes crazy. I have a few one-offs that I'm sitting on just in case....:) Not necessarily, and definitely worth an investment. I had to do a double take as it's not dissimilar to an 8 over 6. You just never know what might suddenly cause major interest down the line. Talking of 8 over 6's, I actually bought one in March last year. Lot 1253 at the LCA. Except it's not a F33A. It's actually a F18 (2 + D) modified to Gouby AA (D + d). At any rate close to that, but the underlying figure much thinner, hence "wiry 6". Gouby said in 2009 there was only one known. Purchased out of interest and not overly expensive, but only fair. You can clearly see the wiry 6 under magnification. Edited January 10, 2020 by 1949threepence Quote
secret santa Posted January 17, 2020 Posted January 17, 2020 There's a somewhat similar specimen to Mike's in the next LCA - not quite the same position of 8 but the same wonky last figure 1. Also an interesting R over small A (a lazy attempt to repair the leg of the R ?) and a very unconvincing (to me) 1862 PFNNY. 2 Quote
1949threepence Posted January 17, 2020 Posted January 17, 2020 2 hours ago, secret santa said: There's a somewhat similar specimen to Mike's in the next LCA - not quite the same position of 8 but the same wonky last figure 1. Also an interesting R over small A (a lazy attempt to repair the leg of the R ?) and a very unconvincing (to me) 1862 PFNNY. Looks more like wear to me. Maybe not a brilliant strike when minted. Quote
terrysoldpennies Posted January 17, 2020 Posted January 17, 2020 R over A , really, not for me and I think most people will shy away from it as well . We'll all have to wait and see if another clearer example turns up. As to the PFNNY this die fill type often turns up on Victorian pennies . Below is a 1890 . Quote
jelida Posted January 17, 2020 Posted January 17, 2020 (edited) Ooh, I do like the R over A overstrike! Another one to look for! Won’t be many out there, as it should be quite an easy spot. Is it on an F10? Looks most likely to me. Jerry Edited January 17, 2020 by jelida Quote
secret santa Posted January 17, 2020 Posted January 17, 2020 5 hours ago, jelida said: Ooh, I do like the R over A overstrike! #Me too 1 Quote
Peckris 2 Posted January 17, 2020 Posted January 17, 2020 Yes, those PFNNY and ONF varieties are extremely unexciting being die fills, not errors. 1 1 Quote
secret santa Posted January 18, 2020 Posted January 18, 2020 On 1/17/2020 at 1:48 PM, jelida said: Is it on an F10? I keep swaying between obv 2 and 4. Other opinions ? Quote
1949threepence Posted January 18, 2020 Posted January 18, 2020 25 minutes ago, secret santa said: I keep swaying between obv 2 and 4. Other opinions ? I'd say obverse 2. Quote
1949threepence Posted January 18, 2020 Posted January 18, 2020 What's wrong with the 6 on this F39? Looks like there might have been some metal displacement. Certainly looks like nothing I've ever seen before. The link to the sale is here Quote
secret santa Posted January 18, 2020 Posted January 18, 2020 Lukasz would be selling that as a 6 over 5. 2 Quote
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