VickySilver Posted February 24, 2014 Posted February 24, 2014 OK, I know it's not British coins, but here is a taste of the continuing toning madness and delusion in the States:If you could have a shot at just one of these Monster Morgan Dollars ... which would you pick and why? Pages: 1 2 LastI hope to God this is a finite madness... Quote
Rob Posted February 24, 2014 Posted February 24, 2014 (edited) I think the post immediately following the OP was ok - 'Salamander because it looks the most natural'. Post 13 is good too. - 'I rarely pay more than a 10% premium for post-mint improvements.'To be honest, the one above may be ok unless the poster of that thread knows otherwise, and I think another may be ok - all assuming the reverses are ok too. The others require a sick bag on permanent standby. Edited February 24, 2014 by Rob Quote
TomGoodheart Posted February 24, 2014 Posted February 24, 2014 They just remind me of trips to Pizza Hut and their ice cream factory. Stick your Smarties into the ice cream and as the coatings melt off you get a very similar effect!And of course NGC is now awarding stars for such .. er, details.It just highlights how different some (particularly US) collectors' likes and dislikes can be. Which is fine. So long as they don't start trying to tell me what I should like in a coin! Quote
Nordle11 Posted February 24, 2014 Posted February 24, 2014 They just remind me of trips to Pizza Hut and their ice cream factory. Stick your Smarties into the ice cream and as the coatings melt off you get a very similar effect!And of course NGC is now awarding stars for such .. er, details.It just highlights how different some (particularly US) collectors' likes and dislikes can be. Which is fine. So long as they don't start trying to tell me what I should like in a coin!Haha totally XD. The only difference being it didn't cost $2000-3000!I quite like the Lightning bolt but all of these definitely fall into the the category of 'nice to look at but would never buy'.. Quote
Peckris Posted February 24, 2014 Posted February 24, 2014 Yes, there were an encouraging number of posts that dissed the whole AT phenomenon, and I'm sure they weren't all Brits! For me, only "Icy Perfection" looked 100% natural, though "Blue Suede" and "Salamander" could have been too. Quote
VickySilver Posted February 24, 2014 Author Posted February 24, 2014 Yes, Peck. Actually it may be a bit of turning of the tide? That poster "Seattle Slammer" was just rather bad & essentially calling dissenters ignorant... Quote
Coppers Posted February 24, 2014 Posted February 24, 2014 Two of the comments found on the PCGS thread were of particular interest.The first which confirms all of my suspicions about the mindset of those who collect such coins...."Shucks. I could go for just about any of the them. I don't give a hang about dates, mintmarks, even grade. To me this is all about the color. I have been saving for a long time and come the Central States Show I should be good to go."..and the second which is my favorite..."I rarely pay more than a 10% premium for post mint improvements". Quote
Rob Posted February 24, 2014 Posted February 24, 2014 (edited) All set for the Morgan Dollar Slabbing Convention?https://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1920&bih=914&q=paints+colors+dulux&oq=paints+colors+dulux&gs_l=img.3...40933.42429.1.43056.6.2.0.4.0.0.127.171.1j1.2.0....0...1ac.1.35.img..5.7.521.sx4-Hs-ZkKM#hl=en&q=paints+colors+dulux+with+dog&tbm=isch&facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=Zm5xIWS-LQBf8M%253A%3BcPrMIbpQle2SZM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.becausexm.com%252Fuploads%252Fimage%252Ffile%252F695%252Fbanner_Dulux_CR_CS_Banner_3.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.becausexm.com%252Fwork%252Fdulux-colour-run%3B1360%3B520The colours are remarkably lifelike when applied. WELL DONE DULUX. Edited February 24, 2014 by Rob Quote
Peckris Posted February 24, 2014 Posted February 24, 2014 All set for the Morgan Dollar Slabbing Convention?https://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1920&bih=914&q=paints+colors+dulux&oq=paints+colors+dulux&gs_l=img.3...40933.42429.1.43056.6.2.0.4.0.0.127.171.1j1.2.0....0...1ac.1.35.img..5.7.521.sx4-Hs-ZkKM#hl=en&q=paints+colors+dulux+with+dog&tbm=isch&facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=Zm5xIWS-LQBf8M%253A%3BcPrMIbpQle2SZM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.becausexm.com%252Fuploads%252Fimage%252Ffile%252F695%252Fbanner_Dulux_CR_CS_Banner_3.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.becausexm.com%252Fwork%252Fdulux-colour-run%3B1360%3B520The colours are remarkably lifelike when applied. WELL DONE DULUX. This is the only AT Morgan I want: Quote
brg5658 Posted February 24, 2014 Posted February 24, 2014 I don't care for any of those coins. Firstly, because I find the Morgan Dollar design to be extremely unattractive. Secondly, because the colors are garish (and the images are over saturated IMO). Thirdly, because the prices are simply laughable.On an aside, I almost never agree with anything that particular OP posts on the PCGS boards. The guy collects PCGS TrueView pictures more than he collects coins. If you want a taste of his collection, you can see it at this link. Be forewarned, you may want to find a bag before clicking. Quote
Rob Posted February 24, 2014 Posted February 24, 2014 They're a bit bright for me. What many people find incomprehensible is the premium paid by some folks for these. A reality check is in order given the ease with which you too could achieve the same results with a bit of effort. There does seem to be a significant anti-rainbow collecting element from the posts above which is encouraging.I think it was a Churchill crown that someone in the US wanted 5 or 6 hundred dollars for with a similar colour scheme. (greattoning or somebody like that) Nobody in their right mind would pay more than a couple of quid for a good one. Most will remain unloved forever.Well done Eme-bag for spotting a marketing opportunity and patenting the idea. http://www.eme-bag.com/about.php Quote
TomGoodheart Posted February 24, 2014 Posted February 24, 2014 I find the Morgan Dollar design to be extremely unattractive. Absolutely! Are Barber coins much rarer? Because I find that an acceptable design, but relative to the Morgans see very few examples. Quote
RLC35 Posted February 24, 2014 Posted February 24, 2014 I find the Morgan Dollar design to be extremely unattractive.Absolutely! Are Barber coins much rarer? Because I find that an acceptable design, but relative to the Morgans see very few examples.Tom, Morgan Dollars are probably the most popular coins in America...while Barbers (all types) are not so well liked, because of their design. Quote
Peckris Posted February 24, 2014 Posted February 24, 2014 I don't care for any of those coins. Firstly, because I find the Morgan Dollar design to be extremely unattractive. Secondly, because the colors are garish (and the images are over saturated IMO). Thirdly, because the prices are simply laughable.On an aside, I almost never agree with anything that particular OP posts on the PCGS boards. The guy collects PCGS TrueView pictures more than he collects coins. If you want a taste of his collection, you can see it at this link. Be forewarned, you may want to find a bag before clicking. ROFL. I've just thought of the way I could "enjoy" the best of both worlds : take photos of my entire collection, then run each photo through Photoshop applying vast amounts of the Hue / Saturation filter to selected parts, while leaving the original coin untouched!! I'll try and remember to make a start tomorrow and show you the first attempt Quote
Nordle11 Posted February 25, 2014 Posted February 25, 2014 I don't care for any of those coins. Firstly, because I find the Morgan Dollar design to be extremely unattractive. Secondly, because the colors are garish (and the images are over saturated IMO). Thirdly, because the prices are simply laughable.On an aside, I almost never agree with anything that particular OP posts on the PCGS boards. The guy collects PCGS TrueView pictures more than he collects coins. If you want a taste of his collection, you can see it at this link. Be forewarned, you may want to find a bag before clicking. ROFL. I've just thought of the way I could "enjoy" the best of both worlds : take photos of my entire collection, then run each photo through Photoshop applying vast amounts of the Hue / Saturation filter to selected parts, while leaving the original coin untouched!! I'll try and remember to make a start tomorrow and show you the first attempt Hahaha, looking forward to this... Quote
Peckris Posted February 25, 2014 Posted February 25, 2014 OK - here's a simply gorgeous Anne shilling, which has iridescent hues of blue, magenta and gold, gradually acquired from years of toning in Adobe's labs 1 Quote
davidrj Posted February 25, 2014 Posted February 25, 2014 OK - here's a simply gorgeous Anne shilling, which has iridescent hues of blue, magenta and gold, gradually acquired from years of toning in Adobe's labs 1708 shilling obv AT !.jpgBrilliant! Quote
Nordle11 Posted February 25, 2014 Posted February 25, 2014 OK - here's a simply gorgeous Anne shilling, which has iridescent hues of blue, magenta and gold, gradually acquired from years of toning in Adobe's labs 1708 shilling obv AT !.jpg :D Hmmm... I definitely think that's a 'Solar Flare' Anne shilling.. Quote
brg5658 Posted February 25, 2014 Posted February 25, 2014 I find the Morgan Dollar design to be extremely unattractive.Absolutely! Are Barber coins much rarer? Because I find that an acceptable design, but relative to the Morgans see very few examples.Tom, Morgan Dollars are probably the most popular coins in America...while Barbers (all types) are not so well liked, because of their design.I have always thought that Morgan Dollars are popular because they are so plentiful. I mean, they were saved by the bag, and most dates (save a few in the mid-1890s) are available to the masses in gem unc. I do actually quite like the reverse eagle on the coin, but the mug on the obverse is simply unattractive to my eye. My type-set example (pictured below) was chosen for the high state of preservation and the fact that it is from 100 years before my birth-year. It simply glows in hand, lustrous frosty beauty, but still by no means even in my top-10 favorite US coin designs.The Barber coinage is liked by fewer people, but it's also much more difficult to find (and afford) high end Barber pieces. The bulk of the Barber coinage was used very heavily in commerce, and so even finding a nice Barber Half in XF (VF British) is hard for some dates. I had the pleasure of photographing in January an absolutely lovely 1906-S Barber Half for a friend that was graded PCGS MS64+, a coin barely over 100 years old. This coin recently sold for over $3,000!! High-end attractive Barber material is simply difficult to find, and thus less appealing to the average collector (and his/her budget). Below is that Barber Half -- not my coin, but my images. Quote
declanwmagee Posted February 25, 2014 Posted February 25, 2014 Very nice, Brandon. Nice to see coins that are coin-coloured too! Quote
Peckris Posted February 25, 2014 Posted February 25, 2014 Good work Peck The best part is I have both the picture and the unsullied original coin. Quote
Rob Posted February 25, 2014 Posted February 25, 2014 Good work Peck The best part is I have both the picture and the unsullied original coin. Yeh, ok up to a point. How do you get the colour off the spare? Quote
Red Riley Posted February 25, 2014 Posted February 25, 2014 I don't care for any of those coins. Firstly, because I find the Morgan Dollar design to be extremely unattractive. Secondly, because the colors are garish (and the images are over saturated IMO). Thirdly, because the prices are simply laughable.On an aside, I almost never agree with anything that particular OP posts on the PCGS boards. The guy collects PCGS TrueView pictures more than he collects coins. If you want a taste of his collection, you can see it at this link. Be forewarned, you may want to find a bag before clicking.Odd isn't it? We have no choice of whose portrait goes on our coins and end up making them look like Miss World (young head coins of the last two female monarchs at least...). But with the whole world to choose from the American mint go and choose some munter with a nutcracker chin!Actually I'm rather fond of Morgan dollars but can't really say why. Quote
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