London Coins Auction March 1St & 2Nd 2013

[Accumulator]

I see that they've added a 1922 penny F-192A to the auction preview. I wonder if this was the eBay coin from earlier in the year? Their grade is near fine/fine, which I think is conservative for this example. I would say Good Fine, personally.

[Peckris]

I see that they've added a 1922 penny F-192A to the auction preview. I wonder if this was the eBay coin from earlier in the year? Their grade is near fine/fine, which I think is conservative for this example. I would say Good Fine, personally.

Interesting. I think some graders would say 'Fine' (the obverse not quite, the reverse a bit over). But we know how our dear friends at London/CGS grade über conservatively!

[VickySilver]

Nice bit regardless, I usually think of "fine" as not collectable but this OK. I wonder the market for such a 'tweener coin?

[Peckris]

Nice bit regardless, I usually think of "fine" as not collectable but this OK. I wonder the market for such a 'tweener coin?

Very good, I imagine, for such a rare coin.

[pies]

I know its rare but surely there are better coins to spend £3k+ on

[Peckris]

I know its rare but surely there are better coins to spend £3k+ on

I'd love an example but my love is not priced at £3k...

[Rob]

Someone who shall remain nameless paid £23K for the Durham House portcullis counterstamp in the last Spink sale. That was fine or slightly better.

[Accumulator]

As a complete aside, I notice that the forum software automatically capitalises any letter after a number as well as each individual word in the thread title. So "1st & 2nd" becomes "1St & 2Nd" even though it was typed propely! Grrrr….

[Peckris]

As a complete aside, I notice that the forum software automatically capitalises any letter after a number as well as each individual word in the thread title. So "1st & 2nd" becomes "1St & 2Nd" even though it was typed propely! Grrrr….

Let me try. 1st and 2nd. Hmm. I think you'll find it's your browser not the forum software. You're not using the dreaded IE by any chance?

[Nick]

As a complete aside, I notice that the forum software automatically capitalises any letter after a number as well as each individual word in the thread title. So "1st & 2nd" becomes "1St & 2Nd" even though it was typed propely! Grrrr.

Let me try. 1st and 2nd. Hmm. I think you'll find it's your browser not the forum software. You're not using the dreaded IE by any chance?

But that's not a thread title, is it!

[Coinery]

It happens to me and, I noted in an earlier post, Rob...I use Chrome and/or FireFox!

[Accumulator]

As a complete aside, I notice that the forum software automatically capitalises any letter after a number as well as each individual word in the thread title. So "1st & 2nd" becomes "1St & 2Nd" even though it was typed propely! Grrrr.

Let me try. 1st and 2nd. Hmm. I think you'll find it's your browser not the forum software. You're not using the dreaded IE by any chance?

But that's not a thread title, is it!

You're right Nick, it's a peculiarity of the thread title, which is automatically capitalised by the software. Not a problem in posts. I happen to use Safari, but it's not a browser issue.

Try starting a thread with the title "This is the 1st time I've tried to not type 1St", Peckris.

Edited December 23, 2013 by Accumulator

[Nick]

As a complete aside, I notice that the forum software automatically capitalises any letter after a number as well as each individual word in the thread title. So "1st & 2nd" becomes "1St & 2Nd" even though it was typed propely! Grrrr.

Let me try. 1st and 2nd. Hmm. I think you'll find it's your browser not the forum software. You're not using the dreaded IE by any chance?

But that's not a thread title, is it!

You're right Nick, it's a peculiarity of the thread title, which is automatically capitalised by the software. Not a problem in posts. I happen to use Safari, but it's not a browser issue.

Try starting a thread with the title "This is the 1st time I've tried to not type 1St", Peckris.

Sounds like Peck was so eager getting in a dig at Microsoft that he neglected to actually read your post.

[Peckris]

As a complete aside, I notice that the forum software automatically capitalises any letter after a number as well as each individual word in the thread title. So "1st & 2nd" becomes "1St & 2Nd" even though it was typed propely! Grrrr.

Let me try. 1st and 2nd. Hmm. I think you'll find it's your browser not the forum software. You're not using the dreaded IE by any chance?

But that's not a thread title, is it!

You're right Nick, it's a peculiarity of the thread title, which is automatically capitalised by the software. Not a problem in posts. I happen to use Safari, but it's not a browser issue.

Try starting a thread with the title "This is the 1st time I've tried to not type 1St", Peckris.

Oops. You're absolutely right. Sadly, it didn't do it as I typed, only after I'd posted. Now I'm left with a topic I can't delete Mods - would you delete it for me please?

[Rob]

Seeing as the other thread about mods has disappeared - here's Peck on his scooter.

[VickySilver]

Peck, I think that was my point - for 3k there might be a bit more interesting bit....

That mid-range for coins, if it is that, between about 3k and 7k is a battleground IMO with the coins generally not being marquee coins but being nicer bits. Just what is the market for them is really the broader point I was getting at. And I am not sure anyone can give an absolute answer to it. I watch the market and coins quite carefully and cannot reach absolute conclusions. Those that can ought to feel free to elaborate methinks....

Edited December 23, 2013 by VickySilver

[Rob]

Peck, I think that was my point - for 3k there might be a bit more interesting bit....

That mid-range for coins, if it is that, between about 3k and 7k is a battleground IMO with the coins generally not being marquee coins but being nicer bits. Just what is the market for them is really the broader point I was getting at. And I am not sure anyone can give an absolute answer to it. I watch the market and coins quite carefully and cannot reach absolute conclusions. Those that can ought to feel free to elaborate methinks....

It's the area I've referred to in the past - the psychological limit for the masses. The limit of about £3K up to a few years ago which has increased to around the 5 or possibly 6K (hammer) mark now. It takes something rare or particularly exceptional to breach this level. Once it has however, it is a case of who blinks first.

[Peckris]

Peck, I think that was my point - for 3k there might be a bit more interesting bit....

That mid-range for coins, if it is that, between about 3k and 7k is a battleground IMO with the coins generally not being marquee coins but being nicer bits. Just what is the market for them is really the broader point I was getting at. And I am not sure anyone can give an absolute answer to it. I watch the market and coins quite carefully and cannot reach absolute conclusions. Those that can ought to feel free to elaborate methinks....

It's the area I've referred to in the past - the psychological limit for the masses. The limit of about £3K up to a few years ago which has increased to around the 5 or possibly 6K (hammer) mark now. It takes something rare or particularly exceptional to breach this level. Once it has however, it is a case of who blinks first.

Glad I'm not one of "the masses" then - my limit is a lot lower than that

[Paulus]

Peck, I think that was my point - for 3k there might be a bit more interesting bit....

That mid-range for coins, if it is that, between about 3k and 7k is a battleground IMO with the coins generally not being marquee coins but being nicer bits. Just what is the market for them is really the broader point I was getting at. And I am not sure anyone can give an absolute answer to it. I watch the market and coins quite carefully and cannot reach absolute conclusions. Those that can ought to feel free to elaborate methinks....

It's the area I've referred to in the past - the psychological limit for the masses. The limit of about £3K up to a few years ago which has increased to around the 5 or possibly 6K (hammer) mark now. It takes something rare or particularly exceptional to breach this level. Once it has however, it is a case of who blinks first.

Glad I'm not one of "the masses" then - my limit is a lot lower than that

Mine too!!!!!! Given my purchases to date, I think my 'psychological limit' is £1K.

[Coinery]

I don't have a psychological limit, just a financial one! If I had 10k I wouldn't flinch to spend it on some Elizabethan gold...sorry, an Elizabethan gold piece!

[VickySilver]

Some, myself included think the collector market for lower priced classical bits is stale and perhaps falling away [down]. The middle ground coins then trying to hang on and the big spender coins in a seeming free rise.

The lovely bit is if somehow one has a coin bought at formerly "middle ground" prices and has now climbed to
"big spender" status. Then the pleasant dilemma is whether to sell or somehow hang on to it and hope for further gains...

[jaggy]

I don't have a psychological limit, just a financial one! If I had 10k I wouldn't flinch to spend it on some Elizabethan gold...sorry, an Elizabethan gold piece!

Yep ... I am waiting for a 'liquidity event' at a couple of my investments before I can start splashing the big bucks.

[jaggy]

Some, myself included think the collector market for lower priced classical bits is stale and perhaps falling away [down]. The middle ground coins then trying to hang on and the big spender coins in a seeming free rise.

The lovely bit is if somehow one has a coin bought at formerly "middle ground" prices and has now climbed to

"big spender" status. Then the pleasant dilemma is whether to sell or somehow hang on to it and hope for further gains...

I don't really know which of my coins might be classed as 'formerly middle ground', but I am enjoying the bidding at the Heritage Newman auction on examples which are inferior to my own.

[Peter]

I can convince myself on anything.

I try to be in control but I can be a coin,car,motorbike,wild idea tart.

There is a chance in the new year that I might be going back to (working for a company).

Mrs Peter recently has gone from rags to riches in her career so I might just tick along.

Trouble is I can buy what I like as long as I run it past it her 1st.

[shagreen]

This is all nicely going off topic as usual, but is it just me or is the title year irrelevant? 2014 is coming! We are not availing ourselves of a Tardis for that auction.

Everyone have a splendid numismatic Christmas hopefully you all get a chance to relax with some coins and best of luck in the upcoming auctions there seems to be a deluge of material to bid on.