"Sorry, I do not allow returns"

[Coinery]

Elizabeth 6d 281030455548

What do you think, I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole? If it stays cheap enough, I will buy it to find out!

[Peckris]

Elizabeth 6d 281030455548

What do you think, I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole? If it stays cheap enough, I will buy it to find out!

Got a link?

[bagerap]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=281030455548

[HistoricCoinage]

Interesting porosity...

[Gary1000]

Interesting porosity...

He does accept returns, just doesn't know it.

[Hussulo]

"Sorry, I do not allow returns"

Well unfortunately for you PayPal says you do . If paying by PayPal you will be covered if the item is not as described or counterfiet. They will just deduct the payment from the sellers account whether he likes it or not. I agree though it doesn't look legit and I wouldn't touch it with any pole.

[Hussulo]

Heres a couple that are going to sting somebody when they find out they're cast:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UNKNOWN-UN-CLEANED-HAMMERED-COIN-DATED-1653-/261136134859?pt=UK_Coins_OtherBritish_RL&hash=item3ccced32cb

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UNKNOWN-UN-CLEANED-HAMMERED-1646-DATED-COIN-OR-MEDAL-UNKNOWN-/261136136195?pt=UK_Coins_OtherBritish_RL&hash=item3ccced3803

Edited December 6, 2012 by Hussulo

[Coinery]

Elizabeth 6d 281030455548

What do you think, I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole? If it stays cheap enough, I will buy it to find out!

Let's find out, then!

[Peckris]

Elizabeth 6d 281030455548

What do you think, I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole? If it stays cheap enough, I will buy it to find out!

Let's find out, then!

Hope I'm not too late - but that looks like an obvious cast replica.

[azda]

Both are gone

[Coinery]

Elizabeth 6d 281030455548

What do you think, I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole? If it stays cheap enough, I will buy it to find out!

Let's find out, then!

Hope I'm not too late - but that looks like an obvious cast replica.

I think you're 99% right, I'll let you know 100% very soon! This would be the first hammered sixpence I've seen, so worth having, if only to mark on my die template, against it's original, that 'crude copies are known to exist of this die'!

I will be discussing a partial reimbursement in the likely event of a forgery exposure, or a return with full-reimbursement!

After I've got it's vital stats and a nice picture, of course!

Edited December 6, 2012 by Coinery

[ski]

or a return with full-reimbursement!

After I've got it's vital stats and a nice picture, of course!

good work, let us know how you get on.

ski

Edited December 6, 2012 by ski

[Coinery]

Elizabeth 6d 281030455548

What do you think, I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole? If it stays cheap enough, I will buy it to find out!

Let's find out, then!

Hope I'm not too late - but that looks like an obvious cast replica.

I think you're 99% right, I'll let you know 100% very soon! This would be the first hammered sixpence I've seen, so worth having, if only to mark on my die template, against it's original, that 'crude copies are known to exist of this die'!

I will be discussing a partial reimbursement in the likely event of a forgery exposure, or a return with full-reimbursement!

After I've got it's vital stats and a nice picture, of course!

So, there it is...a 1566 portcullis sixpence of Elizabeth is also 100% on the counterfeit list!

I'd prefer to keep it, as long as I can renegotiate a price, otherwise back it goes!

Camera's coming out tomorrow, so will put a few pictures up. Nothing to worry about for the hammered boys, this one is not going to catch anyone out! Nowhere near as convincing as the Mary groat.

Next coin of interest is that Elizabeth milled sixpence, that one could stir it up a bit, though the obverse on it is a little corroded/pitted!

[Coinery]

Elizabeth 6d 281030455548

What do you think, I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole? If it stays cheap enough, I will buy it to find out!

Let's find out, then!

Hope I'm not too late - but that looks like an obvious cast replica.

I think you're 99% right, I'll let you know 100% very soon! This would be the first hammered sixpence I've seen, so worth having, if only to mark on my die template, against it's original, that 'crude copies are known to exist of this die'!

I will be discussing a partial reimbursement in the likely event of a forgery exposure, or a return with full-reimbursement!

After I've got it's vital stats and a nice picture, of course!

So, there it is...a 1566 portcullis sixpence of Elizabeth is also 100% on the counterfeit list!

I'd prefer to keep it, as long as I can renegotiate a price, otherwise back it goes!

Camera's coming out tomorrow, so will put a few pictures up. Nothing to worry about for the hammered boys, this one is not going to catch anyone out! Nowhere near as convincing as the Mary groat.

Next coin of interest is that Elizabeth milled sixpence, that one could stir it up a bit, though the obverse on it is a little corroded/pitted!

The bugger's gone quiet on me, after saying 'sorry I don't allow returns,' so 'case open' it will have to be! Anyway, as I said, not that worrying a copy, though could entrap some if it was slightly more worn I guess?

[Greg]

Sorry for the slight bump on an oldish thread. But is ebay that bad of a place to buy from then?

I take it that ebay isnt advisable to buy from unless youre very in the know?

[Paulus]

Sorry for the slight bump on an oldish thread. But is ebay that bad of a place to buy from then?

I take it that ebay isnt advisable to buy from unless youre very in the know?

Personally I think it is 'Sellers beware' on eBay, tons of protection for buyers, and sellers dread negative feedback ... beware high grade coins without lots of hi-res pics, expensive historic coins without provenance, anything from China and certain other known replica exporting locations, and much more to be found on here. There are still bargains to be had for sure.

[Greg]

Sorry for the slight bump on an oldish thread. But is ebay that bad of a place to buy from then?

I take it that ebay isnt advisable to buy from unless youre very in the know?

Personally I think it is 'Sellers beware' on eBay, tons of protection for buyers, and sellers dread negative feedback ... beware high grade coins without lots of hi-res pics, expensive historic coins without provenance, anything from China and certain other known replica exporting locations, and much more to be found on here. There are still bargains to be had for sure.

I never thought of it that way.

I think for the time being I'd rather stick with well known people away from eBay.

[Paulus]

Sorry for the slight bump on an oldish thread. But is ebay that bad of a place to buy from then?

I take it that ebay isnt advisable to buy from unless youre very in the know?

Personally I think it is 'Sellers beware' on eBay, tons of protection for buyers, and sellers dread negative feedback ... beware high grade coins without lots of hi-res pics, expensive historic coins without provenance, anything from China and certain other known replica exporting locations, and much more to be found on here. There are still bargains to be had for sure.

I never thought of it that way.

I think for the time being I'd rather stick with well known people away from eBay.

That's a good approach, there is no rush, stay patient (I am not!), and seek advice from here whenever you want, it is the best, free, and normally very quick!!

[Coinery]

Sorry for the slight bump on an oldish thread. But is ebay that bad of a place to buy from then?

I take it that ebay isnt advisable to buy from unless youre very in the know?

Personally I think it is 'Sellers beware' on eBay, tons of protection for buyers, and sellers dread negative feedback ... beware high grade coins without lots of hi-res pics, expensive historic coins without provenance, anything from China and certain other known replica exporting locations, and much more to be found on here. There are still bargains to be had for sure.

I concur with that Paulus!

For example, I got my money AND postage returned through Paypal re the above coin!

Statistics for me are: around 1000 eBay coins purchased, approximately 10 were unexpected arrivals (wrong coins, lies, deceit, etc.), around 5 of which I couldn't stomach (or easily resolve), and consequently opened a case on! Final outcome...5 proper bad egg deals...5 cases opened...5 cases refunded in full!

As a buyer, I've yet to have a bad experience on eBay!

However, yes, extreme caution is the order of the day!

[Coinery]

Sorry for the slight bump on an oldish thread. But is ebay that bad of a place to buy from then?

I take it that ebay isnt advisable to buy from unless youre very in the know?

Personally I think it is 'Sellers beware' on eBay, tons of protection for buyers, and sellers dread negative feedback ... beware high grade coins without lots of hi-res pics, expensive historic coins without provenance, anything from China and certain other known replica exporting locations, and much more to be found on here. There are still bargains to be had for sure.

I never thought of it that way.

I think for the time being I'd rather stick with well known people away from eBay.

And that is absolutely a good move too! We have many reputable dealers on here! It's not your average forum, there are contributors to the BNJ, authors of respected books, and probably a combined 1000 years + of experience amongst all members!

We have R P Coins (Rob), Argentumandcoins (John), PennyCrownCoins (Derek [does that name ring any bells?]/Red Riley), HistoricCoinage (Clive), AboutFarthings (Colin) and, of course, Pre-Decimal (Chris)!

I always hate creating a list, as I always forget someone! Most of the forum members here also buy AND sell on eBay too, perhaps we should have a copy of eBay user names for those who want them shared, and paste them up on occasions such as these?

Anyway, move with caution, read this forum for a month, surf the above mentioned dealers, and don't rush!

All the right questions are being asked here!

[Greg]

Sorry for the slight bump on an oldish thread. But is ebay that bad of a place to buy from then?

I take it that ebay isnt advisable to buy from unless youre very in the know?

Personally I think it is 'Sellers beware' on eBay, tons of protection for buyers, and sellers dread negative feedback ... beware high grade coins without lots of hi-res pics, expensive historic coins without provenance, anything from China and certain other known replica exporting locations, and much more to be found on here. There are still bargains to be had for sure.

I never thought of it that way.

I think for the time being I'd rather stick with well known people away from eBay.

And that is absolutely a good move too! We have many reputable dealers on here! It's not your average forum, there are contributors to the BNJ, authors of respected books, and probably a combined 1000 years + of experience amongst all members!

We have R P Coins (Rob), Argentumandcoins (John), PennyCrownCoins (Derek [does that name ring any bells?]/Red Riley), HistoricCoinage (Clive), AboutFarthings (Colin) and, of course, Pre-Decimal (Chris)!

I always hate creating a list, as I always forget someone! Most of the forum members here also buy AND sell on eBay too, perhaps we should have a copy of eBay user names for those who want them shared, and paste them up on occasions such as these?

Anyway, move with caution, read this forum for a month, surf the above mentioned dealers, and don't rush!

All the right questions are being asked here!

I have been looking on the pre decimal shop part of the site and RP Coins quite a bit, just getting an idea of prices and what's around.

Not planning on rushing, I just tend to read through things over and over

[Coinery]

Sorry for the slight bump on an oldish thread. But is ebay that bad of a place to buy from then?

I take it that ebay isnt advisable to buy from unless youre very in the know?

Personally I think it is 'Sellers beware' on eBay, tons of protection for buyers, and sellers dread negative feedback ... beware high grade coins without lots of hi-res pics, expensive historic coins without provenance, anything from China and certain other known replica exporting locations, and much more to be found on here. There are still bargains to be had for sure.

I never thought of it that way.

I think for the time being I'd rather stick with well known people away from eBay.

And that is absolutely a good move too! We have many reputable dealers on here! It's not your average forum, there are contributors to the BNJ, authors of respected books, and probably a combined 1000 years + of experience amongst all members!

We have R P Coins (Rob), Argentumandcoins (John), PennyCrownCoins (Derek [does that name ring any bells?]/Red Riley), HistoricCoinage (Clive), AboutFarthings (Colin) and, of course, Pre-Decimal (Chris)!

I always hate creating a list, as I always forget someone! Most of the forum members here also buy AND sell on eBay too, perhaps we should have a copy of eBay user names for those who want them shared, and paste them up on occasions such as these?

Anyway, move with caution, read this forum for a month, surf the above mentioned dealers, and don't rush!

All the right questions are being asked here!

I have been looking on the pre decimal shop part of the site and RP Coins quite a bit, just getting an idea of prices and what's around.

Not planning on rushing, I just tend to read through things over and over

Hallelujah, a serious man of coins! Happy New Year, Greg!

[TomGoodheart]

And remember, we're a friendly lot here, so if you do spot something on ebay (or anywhere else really) and want a second opinion, just post a photo and ask. Of course, we all make mistakes to start with (or for a long time afterwards in my case!) but that's part of the learning process. Coin collecting isn't just acquiring the coins, but also the knowledge about them, so it's a long-term thing. Well, it is if you're more patient than I am anyway!

[Greg]

Sorry to have hijacked the thread, but for the future reference, do each of these people have sites? Or is it more a contact thing? Other tha RP and the owner here?

[Coinery]

Sorry to have hijacked the thread, but for the future reference, do each of these people have sites? Or is it more a contact thing? Other tha RP and the owner here?

Google the names provided, and you'll find them all online with sites!