Paulus Posted January 2, 2012 Posted January 2, 2012 I am wondering if any of the brilliant members of this forum know of an English milled silver piece with elephant or elephant and castle below bust for sale - premium price paid for a VF+ item?I am sure I will be corrected if I am wrong but I believe these might have been minted in crowns and/or half crowns in Charles II, James II, William & Mary, William III, Anne, and George I?Thanks for any help!Paul Quote
azda Posted January 2, 2012 Posted January 2, 2012 I am wondering if any of the brilliant members of this forum know of an English milled silver piece with elephant or elephant and castle below bust for sale - premium price paid for a VF+ item?I am sure I will be corrected if I am wrong but I believe these might have been minted in crowns and/or half crowns in Charles II, James II, William & Mary, William III, Anne, and George I?Thanks for any help!PaulThe Elephant & Castle coins were minted under Charles II (1660-1685) James II (1685-1688) James being the 5 Guinea, William & Mary (1688-1694) William III (1694-1702) Charles were in Gold 2 Guineas and 1 Guinea, Halfcrowns. VF+ examples (Spinks suggested price guide) would start at 4 figures. I personally don't know of any for sale. Quote
numismatist Posted January 2, 2012 Posted January 2, 2012 I think the only Silver Coins are the CHARLES II Crowns, Halfcrowns and Shillings which are found the Elephant alone,and also with the Elephant and Castle and a WILLIAM III Halfcrown with Elephant and Castle. over VF you will findthey can cost £2000.00 to £10000.00 plus. You may find a POOR Crown of Charles II around £200.00. Gold Coins turn upfor all the reigns you mention and are easier to find. To find outside of the large London Auctions will take somehard searching !and most will be vastly overgraded. Quote
TomGoodheart Posted January 2, 2012 Posted January 2, 2012 (edited) There's a Charles II shilling with the elephant too as Mark Rasmussen just sold one.http://www.rascoins.com/global22/Coinpagelarge.cfm?iname=104.jpg&coinid=12971&piclib=ED211I think your best bet would be to contact a few dealers and put it in as a want and they will do the searching for you. It won't be cheap though! However, if it's just the elephant you're keen on, there are also the Ceylon (Sri Lanka) Stivers of George III as a cheaper option!Geo III 2 Stivers coin Edited January 2, 2012 by TomGoodheart Quote
Paulus Posted January 2, 2012 Author Posted January 2, 2012 There's a Charles II shilling with the elephant too as Mark Rasmussen just sold one.http://www.rascoins.com/global22/Coinpagelarge.cfm?iname=104.jpg&coinid=12971&piclib=ED211I think your best bet would be to contact a few dealers and put it in as a want and they will do the searching for you. It won't be cheap though! However, if it's just the elephant you're keen on, there are also the Ceylon (Sri Lanka) Stivers of George III as a cheaper option!Geo III 2 Stivers coinJust English milled silver for me, maybe I'll have to pretend that it isn't a different 'type' ... Do you know what the shilling went for and if so are you allowed to say? Quote
Rob Posted January 2, 2012 Posted January 2, 2012 There's a Charles II shilling with the elephant too as Mark Rasmussen just sold one.http://www.rascoins.com/global22/Coinpagelarge.cfm?iname=104.jpg&coinid=12971&piclib=ED211I think your best bet would be to contact a few dealers and put it in as a want and they will do the searching for you. It won't be cheap though! However, if it's just the elephant you're keen on, there are also the Ceylon (Sri Lanka) Stivers of George III as a cheaper option!Geo III 2 Stivers coinJust English milled silver for me, maybe I'll have to pretend that it isn't a different 'type' ... Do you know what the shilling went for and if so are you allowed to say?£2750. ex Ashby 2448. Quote
Paulus Posted January 2, 2012 Author Posted January 2, 2012 There's a Charles II shilling with the elephant too as Mark Rasmussen just sold one.http://www.rascoins.com/global22/Coinpagelarge.cfm?iname=104.jpg&coinid=12971&piclib=ED211I think your best bet would be to contact a few dealers and put it in as a want and they will do the searching for you. It won't be cheap though! However, if it's just the elephant you're keen on, there are also the Ceylon (Sri Lanka) Stivers of George III as a cheaper option!Geo III 2 Stivers coinJust English milled silver for me, maybe I'll have to pretend that it isn't a different 'type' ... Do you know what the shilling went for and if so are you allowed to say?£2750. ex Ashby 2448.Thanks, I have contacted some dealers on-line, and if there are any dealers/members on here that know of one for sale please let me know, I have a reasonable budget for one! Quote
Rob Posted January 2, 2012 Posted January 2, 2012 There's a Charles II shilling with the elephant too as Mark Rasmussen just sold one.http://www.rascoins.com/global22/Coinpagelarge.cfm?iname=104.jpg&coinid=12971&piclib=ED211I think your best bet would be to contact a few dealers and put it in as a want and they will do the searching for you. It won't be cheap though! However, if it's just the elephant you're keen on, there are also the Ceylon (Sri Lanka) Stivers of George III as a cheaper option!Geo III 2 Stivers coinJust English milled silver for me, maybe I'll have to pretend that it isn't a different 'type' ... Do you know what the shilling went for and if so are you allowed to say?£2750. ex Ashby 2448.Thanks, I have contacted some dealers on-line, and if there are any dealers/members on here that know of one for sale please let me know, I have a reasonable budget for one!So do I Quote
coin watch Posted January 2, 2012 Posted January 2, 2012 There's a Charles II shilling with the elephant too as Mark Rasmussen just sold one.http://www.rascoins.com/global22/Coinpagelarge.cfm?iname=104.jpg&coinid=12971&piclib=ED211Where did you get this reference from? I cant find it on his current webpage? Quote
Rob Posted January 2, 2012 Posted January 2, 2012 There's a Charles II shilling with the elephant too as Mark Rasmussen just sold one.http://www.rascoins.com/global22/Coinpagelarge.cfm?iname=104.jpg&coinid=12971&piclib=ED211Where did you get this reference from? I cant find it on his current webpage?Rascoins website Quote
coin watch Posted January 2, 2012 Posted January 2, 2012 There's a Charles II shilling with the elephant too as Mark Rasmussen just sold one.http://www.rascoins.com/global22/Coinpagelarge.cfm?iname=104.jpg&coinid=12971&piclib=ED211Where did you get this reference from? I cant find it on his current webpage?Rascoins websiteThanks Rob, for some reason I was still getting his old list via bookmarked page Quote
Rob Posted January 2, 2012 Posted January 2, 2012 There's a Charles II shilling with the elephant too as Mark Rasmussen just sold one.http://www.rascoins.com/global22/Coinpagelarge.cfm?iname=104.jpg&coinid=12971&piclib=ED211Where did you get this reference from? I cant find it on his current webpage?Rascoins websiteThanks Rob, for some reason I was still getting his old list via bookmarked page So do I, but the new link came via email with list 22. The new site has the /global22 bit stuck on the end - whatever that means. Quote
Paulus Posted January 2, 2012 Author Posted January 2, 2012 There's a Charles II shilling with the elephant too as Mark Rasmussen just sold one.http://www.rascoins.com/global22/Coinpagelarge.cfm?iname=104.jpg&coinid=12971&piclib=ED211I think your best bet would be to contact a few dealers and put it in as a want and they will do the searching for you. It won't be cheap though! However, if it's just the elephant you're keen on, there are also the Ceylon (Sri Lanka) Stivers of George III as a cheaper option!Geo III 2 Stivers coinJust English milled silver for me, maybe I'll have to pretend that it isn't a different 'type' ... Do you know what the shilling went for and if so are you allowed to say?£2750. ex Ashby 2448.Thanks, I have contacted some dealers on-line, and if there are any dealers/members on here that know of one for sale please let me know, I have a reasonable budget for one!So do I That's all I need, two of us going for the same coin! Quote
numismatist Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 Nice Charles II Crown 1666 Elephant below DNW 16 June 2010 Lot 664 Estimate £1200.00-£1500.00Fetched £1700.00..So Buyer paid £2125.00 and the poor seller got £1394.00.Thats 65.6% !!!It looks a nice coin Quote
Cerbera100 Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 Nice Charles II Crown 1666 Elephant below DNW 16 June 2010 Lot 664 Estimate £1200.00-£1500.00Fetched £1700.00..So Buyer paid £2125.00 and the poor seller got £1394.00.Thats 65.6% !!!It looks a nice coin35% profit for the House... bang on Mr Webb's target! Quote
TomGoodheart Posted September 22, 2012 Posted September 22, 2012 A poor one on ebay if anyone is interested? CHARLES II SILVER CROWN DATED 1666 **ELEPHANT BELOW BUST** RARE** £1.99 start!! Quote
Peckris Posted September 22, 2012 Posted September 22, 2012 A poor one on ebay if anyone is interested? CHARLES II SILVER CROWN DATED 1666 **ELEPHANT BELOW BUST** RARE** £1.99 start!!POOR??? That's a CC 'Fine', and at least 'Fair' to everyone else! Quote
Paulus Posted September 22, 2012 Author Posted September 22, 2012 A poor one on ebay if anyone is interested? CHARLES II SILVER CROWN DATED 1666 **ELEPHANT BELOW BUST** RARE** £1.99 start!!Watching that, thanks! Quote
Coinery Posted September 22, 2012 Posted September 22, 2012 A poor one on ebay if anyone is interested? CHARLES II SILVER CROWN DATED 1666 **ELEPHANT BELOW BUST** RARE** £1.99 start!!Watching that, thanks!Thought that might catch your attention Paulus! Quote
scott Posted September 23, 2012 Posted September 23, 2012 poor? thats fair.and £102 a;ready.. sheez Quote
azda Posted September 23, 2012 Posted September 23, 2012 poor? thats fair.and £102 a;ready.. sheezIts the wee elephant that does it Scott. P.s, i was only kidding about the bid Quote
azda Posted September 23, 2012 Posted September 23, 2012 (edited) Just wondering if this is the same coin sold at Lockdales this year in auction around March/April. I remember John mentioning one (argentumandcoins) and i'd live bidded on the same auction and watched that coin sell for around 600 quid. Anyone got a catalogue from that auction because these coins don't come around often so should be easily spotted if they popped up Edited September 23, 2012 by azda Quote
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