Paulus Posted September 19, 2012 Posted September 19, 2012 So i had to ask the question...............Dear lucido_8,I'm assuming this has been date altered from the 1889?Replyno date change...it is an 1887 coin- lucido_8So repliedDear lucido_8,Really? How would you explain the rubbing around the 7 in date? Strange no?...and the fact that it has the large head obverse that didn't appear until 1889.I suspect that Dave has that clincher up his sleeve! Quote
Rob Posted September 19, 2012 Posted September 19, 2012 And this one is very highly graded. So highly graded in fact that it is indisputably overgraded by even the most abstract definition of high. Peck, you might want to reassess your viewpoint on this seller. Caveat emptor, particularly any beginners reading this. Quote
azda Posted September 19, 2012 Posted September 19, 2012 And this one is very highly graded. So highly graded in fact that it is indisputably overgraded by even the most abstract definition of high. Peck, you might want to reassess your viewpoint on this seller. Caveat emptor, particularly any beginners reading this.Times must be hard................ Quote
azda Posted September 19, 2012 Posted September 19, 2012 So i had to ask the question...............Dear lucido_8,I'm assuming this has been date altered from the 1889?Replyno date change...it is an 1887 coin- lucido_8So repliedDear lucido_8,Really? How would you explain the rubbing around the 7 in date? Strange no?...and the fact that it has the large head obverse that didn't appear until 1889.I suspect that Dave has that clincher up his sleeve! Maybe better to let people bury themselves than let others do it for them Quote
Paulus Posted September 19, 2012 Posted September 19, 2012 And this one is very highly graded. So highly graded in fact that it is indisputably overgraded by even the most abstract definition of high. Peck, you might want to reassess your viewpoint on this seller. Caveat emptor, particularly any beginners reading this.I note that he is careful not to proffer a genuine numismatic grade for this one (which should of course read 'a very common coin in Fine'), unlike many of his other (also over-graded) offerings, only 'very high', therefore far more subjective ... I have noted in the past that he seems to combine clever photography, tilted angles, and sales patter, to achieve a top price, caveat emptor indeed Quote
azda Posted September 19, 2012 Posted September 19, 2012 (edited) And this one is very highly graded. So highly graded in fact that it is indisputably overgraded by even the most abstract definition of high. Peck, you might want to reassess your viewpoint on this seller. Caveat emptor, particularly any beginners reading this.I note that he is careful not to proffer a genuine numismatic grade for this one (which should of course read 'a very common coin in Fine'), unlike many of his other (also over-graded) offerings, only 'very high', therefore far more subjective ... I have noted in the past that he seems to combine clever photography, tilted angles, and sales patter, to achieve a top price, caveat emptor indeedHe was once respected amoungst forum members who have previously bought from him. As said in a previous post, good coins are becoming harder to obtain, hence now the spin from this seller for crap coins.Anyone who is a serious collector can see it's not a very high graded coin........Only the ebay prey will buy Edited September 19, 2012 by azda Quote
Peckris Posted September 19, 2012 Posted September 19, 2012 And this one is very highly graded. So highly graded in fact that it is indisputably overgraded by even the most abstract definition of high. Peck, you might want to reassess your viewpoint on this seller. Caveat emptor, particularly any beginners reading this.He was once respected amoungst forum members who have previously bought from him. As said in a previous post, good coins are becoming harder to obtain, hence now the spin from this seller for crap coins.Anyone who is a serious collector can see it's not a very high graded coin........Only the ebay prey will buyHe's changed. Or else I didn't view a high enough sample of his coins turds. Quote
azda Posted September 19, 2012 Posted September 19, 2012 And this one is very highly graded. So highly graded in fact that it is indisputably overgraded by even the most abstract definition of high. Peck, you might want to reassess your viewpoint on this seller. Caveat emptor, particularly any beginners reading this.He was once respected amoungst forum members who have previously bought from him. As said in a previous post, good coins are becoming harder to obtain, hence now the spin from this seller for crap coins.Anyone who is a serious collector can see it's not a very high graded coin........Only the ebay prey will buyHe's changed. Or else I didn't view a high enough sample of his coins turds.Good photography Peck Quote
declanwmagee Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 He's changed. I think you're right, Peck. Either that or he's stayed the same while I've gone up. I used to buy a few from him, but haven't in ages. Quote
Coinery Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 Oh dearZero feedback, but that photography and background looks mighty familiar! Quote
Accumulator Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 I'd love to know which 3 experts he consulted over this coin. Quote
Gary D Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 I'd love to know which 3 experts he consulted over this coin.Mmm worth £1600 so I'll sell it for a grand. Bargain. Quote
TomGoodheart Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 Oh dearPerhaps I should list mine? I'd be happy with only £200!! Quote
Accumulator Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 I'd love to know which 3 experts he consulted over this coin.Mmm worth £1600 so I'll sell it for a grand. Bargain.99p would be closer to the mark for a 6 + G in this condition. Quote
Peckris Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 I'd love to know which 3 experts he consulted over this coin.Mmm worth £1600 so I'll sell it for a grand. Bargain.99p would be closer to the mark for a 6 + G in this condition.I note he has tilted the camera so that the clincher between Obverses 2 and 6 - the gap between the top of the head and the linear circle - can't be seen clearly! Quote
Accumulator Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 I'd love to know which 3 experts he consulted over this coin.Mmm worth £1600 so I'll sell it for a grand. Bargain.99p would be closer to the mark for a 6 + G in this condition.I note he has tilted the camera so that the clincher between Obverses 2 and 6 - the gap between the top of the head and the linear circle - can't be seen clearly!Yes, funny that! Luckily he hasn't managed to hide different protrusion of leaves at the front of the wreath. Quote
Peckris Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 I'd love to know which 3 experts he consulted over this coin.Mmm worth £1600 so I'll sell it for a grand. Bargain.99p would be closer to the mark for a 6 + G in this condition.I note he has tilted the camera so that the clincher between Obverses 2 and 6 - the gap between the top of the head and the linear circle - can't be seen clearly!Yes, funny that! Luckily he hasn't managed to hide different protrusion of leaves at the front of the wreath.Haha yes! A person of limited intelligence perhaps .. or else relying on the limited intelligence of buyers Quote
Gary D Posted September 22, 2012 Posted September 22, 2012 Haha yes! A person of limited intelligence perhaps .. or else relying on the limited intelligence of buyers Correct on both counts I suspect. Quote
TomGoodheart Posted September 22, 2012 Posted September 22, 2012 (edited) Not sure why people do this. "The auction you are now visiting is for what I believe to be is a Hammered This enchanting example has very good detail on the obverse and the reverse. I have graded this piece as Fine and this is my opinion. Please study my photos and judge the grade for yourself. It is sold as seen.Please note that I always endeavour to be accurate or to under-grade because I am not a seasoned numismatist. I also guarantee, the coin/s displayed in the photos are the exact coin/s you will receive."And he has four more just like it .... Edited September 22, 2012 by TomGoodheart Quote
azda Posted September 22, 2012 Posted September 22, 2012 Not sure why people do this. "The auction you are now visiting is for what I believe to be is a Hammered This enchanting example has very good detail on the obverse and the reverse. I have graded this piece as Fine and this is my opinion. Please study my photos and judge the grade for yourself. It is sold as seen.Please note that I always endeavour to be accurate or to under-grade because I am not a seasoned numismatist. I also guarantee, the coin/s displayed in the photos are the exact coin/s you will receive."And he has four more just like it ....The likeness is uncanny Although he's now taken it down Quote
TomGoodheart Posted September 23, 2012 Posted September 23, 2012 Not a laugh, just some a comment. That I'm pretty sure this is a fake. Or rather, it's a modern replica made of pewter-like white metal. eBay # 261102675755So if anyone is looking to buy a Charles I shilling with the star mint mark, beware of ones looking like this! Quote
Paulus Posted September 23, 2012 Posted September 23, 2012 Not a laugh, just some a comment. That I'm pretty sure this is a fake. Or rather, it's a modern replica made of pewter-like white metal. eBay # 261102675755So if anyone is looking to buy a Charles I shilling with the star mint mark, beware of ones looking like this!Hilariously the seller has named himself The 'Ring' Master!! Quote
azda Posted September 23, 2012 Posted September 23, 2012 Not a laugh, just some a comment. That I'm pretty sure this is a fake. Or rather, it's a modern replica made of pewter-like white metal. eBay # 261102675755So if anyone is looking to buy a Charles I shilling with the star mint mark, beware of ones looking like this!Hilariously the seller has named himself The 'Ring' Master!! Yes, bend over after i've sold this coin to you, you have been screwed Quote
pies Posted September 23, 2012 Posted September 23, 2012 Yes, bend over after i've sold this coin to you, you have been screwed Why do you think he calls himself the ring master Quote
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