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There is now a frightful number of "error" banknotes on sale with parts of the design missing (e.g. Queen's Head, wording, bits of designs etc etc)

One problem with the new polymer banknote is that the ink can be removed relatively easily.

E.g. this featured in the Sun after some one rubbed out the queen's head with a rubber.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/4466648/watch-as-the-queens-head-is-erased-from-the-new-10-note-in-minutes-with-only-a-rubber/

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Does this offer look similar to the note above?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Very-rare-5-note-printing-error-Queens-face-missing-Excellent-condition/302394991876?hash=item4668256504:g:~bIAAOSwHn1ZeIhb

Some people are even selling "error" notes totally blank on one side. Some even come up with rather implausible stories of how they came by them. I rather  suspect that someone must have found a solvent to dissolve ink off the notes.

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2 hours ago, Michael-Roo said:

Ah, the infamous Marleybob is still at it! She is certainly persistent..

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1 hour ago, Sleepy said:

Most of those are no better than scrap metal and they are asking more than double that. No bid from me!

 

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4 hours ago, Paddy said:

Most of those are no better than scrap metal and they are asking more than double that. No bid from me!

 

But on the other hand, they are going to lose over £30 in fees and shipping. A bigger negative is the absence of pictures of the other side of the coins. At that point the price becomes irrelevant.

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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/223962727538

The classic fake + junk bulk lot scam, rare to see it this blatant though. At least the fake coin is described as a restrike in the description, but the bids the seller's getting on some of these lots are ridiculous. 

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5 minutes ago, JLS said:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/223962727538

The classic fake + junk bulk lot scam, rare to see it this blatant though. At least the fake coin is described as a restrike in the description, but the bids the seller's getting on some of these lots are ridiculous. 

I like the fact that the sixpence is "defiantly silver", which the George IV crown certainly isn't!

 

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On 4/3/2020 at 6:25 PM, JLS said:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/223962727538

The classic fake + junk bulk lot scam, rare to see it this blatant though. At least the fake coin is described as a restrike in the description, but the bids the seller's getting on some of these lots are ridiculous. 

Made it look as though somebody found the tin with the coins in it. Although they cover themselves nicely. 

As you say, a pure scam. All junk. Yet people fall for it, such is their naivety. 

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8 hours ago, 1949threepence said:

Made it look as though somebody found the tin with the coins in it. Although they cover themselves nicely. 

As you say, a pure scam. All junk. Yet people fall for it, such is their naivety. 

There are far too many examples of sellers like this:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/283845360507 - fake; the seller is offering all sorts of other junk lots put together as if "found". Note the description: "No Money Back No Guarantee" and a disclaimer that the coin's not guaranteed to be authentic. 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/133384677622 - look at the seller's other lots; classic with the fuzzy photos

 

 

 

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23 minutes ago, JLS said:

There are far too many examples of sellers like this:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/283845360507 - fake; the seller is offering all sorts of other junk lots put together as if "found". Note the description: "No Money Back No Guarantee" and a disclaimer that the coin's not guaranteed to be authentic. 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/133384677622 - look at the seller's other lots; classic with the fuzzy photos

 

 

 

"Attic find" would suggest that the attic dated from the 17th century, and your average attic does not.

With regard to the second link, that tin looks amazingly new and fresh. I have actually, in reality, discovered a genuine "old tin" full of various bits of junk, including a few worthless coins, in the loft of my house when I moved in. But the tin, which looked a bit like an army one, was lacklustre, dirty and partly rusted. Not new off an ASDA shelf.    

ETA: looking through the rest of his items, how many tins has he supposedly found? 

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8 minutes ago, PWA 1967 said:

Lovely crisp hair detail - looks like it could have been made yesterday. :blink: Sorry, last month given shipping and listing delays..

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I've warned him to withdraw these replicas or they'll be reported to eBay.

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Reported, for what that’s worth. There have been some very active sellers of these fakes based in Poland and Serbia, a whole variety of home-made dies and they sell a lot at around £100. Some buyers, or their families, will get a shock in due course. I don’t understand how Ebay can get away with facilitating this trade,  though I suspect there will be changes in the legal responsibility in years to come, in the same way that pressure is building on social media to be responsible for moderating what is posted on its sites.

Jerry

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4 hours ago, jelida said:

Reported, for what that’s worth. There have been some very active sellers of these fakes based in Poland and Serbia, a whole variety of home-made dies and they sell a lot at around £100. Some buyers, or their families, will get a shock in due course. I don’t understand how Ebay can get away with facilitating this trade,  though I suspect there will be changes in the legal responsibility in years to come, in the same way that pressure is building on social media to be responsible for moderating what is posted on its sites.

Jerry

I suppose the most probable reason e bay appear powerless, is that their staff don't know real from fake. They rely on experts to pro-actively alert them to fakery, and even then can only deal with the specific items reported.    

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7 minutes ago, 1949threepence said:

I suppose the most probable reason e bay appear powerless, is that their staff don't know real from fake. They rely on experts to pro-actively alert them to fakery, and even then can only deal with the specific items reported.    

True, but many times I and others here have reported items without any action being taken; I don’t know if there is a trigger point, a certain number of reports or whatever. Ebay really should have a small panel of ‘approved’ expert reporters who carry greater weight, I am sure there are members on this forum, for example, who might qualify.  I believe there was a similar system operating for Ebay USA for a while, subsequently disbanded.

Jerry

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16 minutes ago, 1949threepence said:

I suppose the most probable reason e bay appear powerless

...is that they directly profit from the sale of fakes, so they pay nothing more than lip service to preventing it. :rolleyes:

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