Iannich48 Posted February 17, 2021 Posted February 17, 2021 18 hours ago, Peckris 2 said: "The coin is slightly worn" I did see a VG or thereabouts F8B sell for about £300 on eBay last weekend, but surely there is no way to tell what dies were used on "The slightly worn coin". 😁 1
mrbadexample Posted February 17, 2021 Posted February 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, Iannich48 said: I did see a VG or thereabouts F8B sell for about £300 on eBay last weekend, but surely there is no way to tell what dies were used on "The slightly worn coin". 😁 It looks "very similar". I know this because I asked. "Hi we have looked at others and with it being so old and in the family we have not had it confirmed as a 1860 Pattern Penny Freeman8B it is so worn However it looks very similar to what we have seen Many Thanks" 1
secret santa Posted February 17, 2021 Posted February 17, 2021 23 minutes ago, mrbadexample said: "Hi we have looked at others and with it being so old and in the family we have not had it confirmed as a 1860 Pattern Penny Freeman8B it is so worn However it looks very similar to what we have seen Many Thanks" Good enough for me................... 2
alfnail Posted February 17, 2021 Posted February 17, 2021 5 hours ago, PWA 1967 said: I remember a forum member telling me a few years ago " i will sell the coins myself before i go ,nobody will get as much as me " and if your reading this i believe you were right 👍 Was it me Pete, sounds like the sort of thing I may have said!? You've reminded me that it's about time, but can I just keep back the best 10.....or maybe 100 please? It's so damned difficult to think about parting with one's collection........even when you know it makes sense. 2
secret santa Posted February 17, 2021 Posted February 17, 2021 3 hours ago, mrbadexample said: "Hi we have looked at others and with it being so old and in the family we have not had it confirmed as a 1860 Pattern Penny Freeman8B it is so worn However it looks very similar to what we have seen Many Thanks" They've now removed it after I contacted them. They said that Ebay led them down the route of describing it as F8B which I can believe given the way that it can steer advertisers who are not familiar with what they're selling, to something similar.
mrbadexample Posted February 17, 2021 Posted February 17, 2021 9 minutes ago, secret santa said: They've now removed it after I contacted them. They said that Ebay led them down the route of describing it as F8B which I can believe given the way that it can steer advertisers who are not familiar with what they're selling, to something similar. Actually, I can completely believe that. They do like to tell you what it is and how much you should ask when you list something. I wasn't rude, I just said I couldn't bid if they weren't sure.
1949threepence Posted February 17, 2021 Posted February 17, 2021 That's the thing about coins. They will survive whoever inherits them, and they will continue to survive through many more inheritees - their births, marriages and deaths - so who knows where the coins we own today, will be residing in say 2500. Often I look at a really old coin in lustrous condition and think it almost certainly looked exactly like it does now, 150+ years ago. The same on the day I, parents, grandparents and great grandparents were born, back to ancestor relatives who died way before our forebears were thought of (assuming they were thought of). With the same little blemishes, the same trace of a fingerprint, the same edge knock and so on. Also a well worn coin. How many millions of times did it change hands? How many countless pockets, purses, banks, tills and piggy banks has it been in, during those many decades of circulation? Interesting to ponder.
1949threepence Posted February 17, 2021 Posted February 17, 2021 57 minutes ago, Peckris 2 said: InheritORS !!! PedANT !!! 1
Peckris 2 Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 23 hours ago, 1949threepence said: PedANT !!! Well, yeah, but the non-existant word 'inheritee' had been used so many times above! I just couldn't let it rest...
secret santa Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 If we use it often enough it will become accepted. Remember how the word "quiz" was born !
oldcopper Posted February 19, 2021 Posted February 19, 2021 On 2/16/2021 at 8:44 PM, 1949threepence said: But doesn't detract....... ..as usually found.
Peckris 2 Posted February 19, 2021 Posted February 19, 2021 23 hours ago, secret santa said: If we use it often enough it will become accepted. Remember how the word "quiz" was born ! Oh god, I hope not! It's bad enough we have to put up with the appalling abortion of a word "attendee".
1949threepence Posted February 25, 2021 Posted February 25, 2021 (edited) On 2/19/2021 at 10:44 PM, Peckris 2 said: Oh god, I hope not! It's bad enough we have to put up with the appalling abortion of a word "attendee". I think one of the problems is that you see the word written down somewhere - often in the media - and if it's not a word used very often, you just assume it's correct. Inheritees isn't a "derivative" of a word I'd frequently use, and it sounds looks plausible enough. Whereas if someone writes, for example, "could of" instead of "could have", that immediately hits you in the eye as obviously incorrect grammar. Yet many do. Edited February 25, 2021 by 1949threepence altering "sounds" to "looks" 3
blakeyboy Posted February 25, 2021 Posted February 25, 2021 Since the start of Covid, 'data' has been referred to as a plural, strangely, after decades of everyone getting it wrong... 'Referenda' seems to have vanished now, thank heaven, replaced by 'referendums', but remember that we are often not the arbiters of good usage: in US supermarkets one till/checkout is labelled '15 items or fewer', quite correctly, instead of using 'less', and it can easily be argued that 'math' is the correct abbreviation of 'mathematics', and not 'maths'..... 2
Paddy Posted February 25, 2021 Posted February 25, 2021 It depresses me that the plural of forum is now accepted as "forums" instead of "fora". Even spell check highlights the second, not the first. 4
blakeyboy Posted February 25, 2021 Posted February 25, 2021 ooh yeah! It is second declension, after all, which is what people assume about 'referendum', and come unstuck. 'Referenda' was often used by people who wanted to appeared learned, rather like 'Alas, poor Yorick, I knew him well' and 'stuff that dreams are made of' etc..etc....I don't worry any more- language evolves, but when someone talks crap with a smug look on their face I press the button marked 'launch all missiles'....:) 1
blakeyboy Posted February 25, 2021 Posted February 25, 2021 On 2/18/2021 at 10:53 PM, secret santa said: If we use it often enough it will become accepted. Remember how the word "quiz" was born ! If I have to answer that, am I the 'quizzee' ?
blakeyboy Posted February 25, 2021 Posted February 25, 2021 oo- what about 'different to', ( so I say "it's similar from" ) and, in Parliament particularly: "we will insure this happens" .....ggrrrr....
1949threepence Posted February 25, 2021 Posted February 25, 2021 1 hour ago, blakeyboy said: Since the start of Covid, 'data' has been referred to as a plural, strangely, after decades of everyone getting it wrong... 'Referenda' seems to have vanished now, thank heaven, replaced by 'referendums', but remember that we are often not the arbiters of good usage: in US supermarkets one till/checkout is labelled '15 items or fewer', quite correctly, instead of using 'less', and it can easily be argued that 'math' is the correct abbreviation of 'mathematics', and not 'maths'..... What is the proportion of incorrect English usage, to correct. You do the math (sorry couldn't resist) 40 minutes ago, blakeyboy said: oo- what about 'different to', ( so I say "it's similar from" ) and, in Parliament particularly: "we will insure this happens" .....ggrrrr.... [pedant mode] shouldn't that be ensure? [/pedant mode]
Paddy Posted February 25, 2021 Posted February 25, 2021 The one that bugs me constantly is "unique". Everything seems to be unique these days, even frequently qualified with "very". If something is unique there is only one of it, so "very unique" is meaningless. On the antiques programs, which I generally enjoy, "unique" is trotted out for almost anything even slightly out of the ordinary. 1
blakeyboy Posted February 25, 2021 Posted February 25, 2021 20 minutes ago, 1949threepence said: What is the proportion of incorrect English usage, to correct. You do the math (sorry couldn't resist) [pedant mode] shouldn't that be ensure? [/pedant mode] Yes!! that's what I mean Mike!! Two separate words that don't mean the same thing...why try and combine their usage into 'insure'? Doesn't make sense to me...
blakeyboy Posted February 25, 2021 Posted February 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Paddy said: The one that bugs me constantly is "unique". Everything seems to be unique these days, even frequently qualified with "very". If something is unique there is only one of it, so "very unique" is meaningless. On the antiques programs, which I generally enjoy, "unique" is trotted out for almost anything even slightly out of the ordinary. Yes yes yes!! This afternoon I had a friend reckon that the console I've nearly finished is "pretty unique' and I pressed the button.....! 1
1949threepence Posted February 25, 2021 Posted February 25, 2021 1 hour ago, blakeyboy said: Yes!! that's what I mean Mike!! Two separate words that don't mean the same thing...why try and combine their usage into 'insure'? Doesn't make sense to me... I agree, it's completely wrong. As you say, two totally different meanings which could potentially cause confusion. 1 hour ago, blakeyboy said: Yes yes yes!! This afternoon I had a friend reckon that the console I've nearly finished is "pretty unique' and I pressed the button.....! "Distinctly unusual" might be a better way to put it.
Iannich48 Posted February 26, 2021 Posted February 26, 2021 The phrase "We will give it 110% effort" Now that really Is not possible, is it. 1
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