1949threepence Posted August 6, 2019 Posted August 6, 2019 ...and for the penny enthusiast, easily the best and most interesting listings for some considerable time... link here 2 Quote
jelida Posted August 6, 2019 Posted August 6, 2019 Yes, a nice selection and a couple of temptations. But I remain dubious about the 1862/1, if it is an overstrike it is definitely a different die from the examples thus far described. Jerry Quote
1949threepence Posted August 6, 2019 Author Posted August 6, 2019 Incidentally, I think the F39A at lot No 1981, is the same one as shown in this post from a month or two back (note the EK at 12 o'clock) . I reckon it was amongst those bought at DNW, most probably by Jack Relph of Coopers Coins. Quite plausibly the "remnants" (for want of a better word) of the Hiram Brown collection. Although the word remnants fails to do them justice. Quote
alfnail Posted August 6, 2019 Posted August 6, 2019 1 hour ago, 1949threepence said: Incidentally, I think the F39A at lot No 1981, is the same one as shown in this post from a month or two back (note the EK at 12 o'clock) . I reckon it was amongst those bought at DNW, most probably by Jack Relph of Coopers Coins. Quite plausibly the "remnants" (for want of a better word) of the Hiram Brown collection. Although the word remnants fails to do them justice. Got a feeling that Jack Relph picked those up at Stroud Auctions (5/12/18) and that they were part of Alan Stevenson's collection. He lived in Cirencester and used to buy a lot on ebay with user name bargains1* before he passed away in June 2018...……....….but I may be wrong. Quote
1949threepence Posted August 6, 2019 Author Posted August 6, 2019 2 hours ago, jelida said: Yes, a nice selection and a couple of temptations. But I remain dubious about the 1862/1, if it is an overstrike it is definitely a different die from the examples thus far described. Jerry I agree Jerry, that one is far from convincing. 44 minutes ago, alfnail said: Got a feeling that Jack Relph picked those up at Stroud Auctions (5/12/18) and that they were part of Alan Stevenson's collection. He lived in Cirencester and used to buy a lot on ebay with user name bargains1* before he passed away in June 2018...……....….but I may be wrong. Thanks Ian, that's interesting. It was Jack Relph who sold a number of other pennies on e bay back in June. I think I can say fairly conclusively that the F39A at least, was sold at the DNW auction, as it was a job lot of 1862 pennies (lot 981). Definitely the same coin as the one identified then. Not sure about the rest - with the exception of the F38 which I bought from him. That too was among that job lot of 1862's. Obviously, he could have combined coins from different sources. This is the e bay message I received from Jack at the time:- Quote New message from: cooperscoinscom (4,629) Hi Michael, Thank you for your purchase and apologies for the delay in my reply to your message. Many of the coins did indeed come from the DNW sale as you noted, including the two you purchased. I hope this helps and I hope you enjoy your new additions! Kind regards, Jack Quote
secret santa Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 A lot of new specimens of some real rarities - I wonder whose collection it was ? Quote
mrbadexample Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 Is it me, or have they not bothered taking many photos? Quote
VickySilver Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 I agree, really did not see but maybe 1/2 or less of the usual.... Quote
1949threepence Posted August 7, 2019 Author Posted August 7, 2019 52 minutes ago, mrbadexample said: Is it me, or have they not bothered taking many photos? No it's not you. They've omitted to take pics of a good number, which is disappointing. Won't bid on something I can't see. Quote
secret santa Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 1 hour ago, mrbadexample said: Is it me, or have they not bothered taking many photos? I suspect they'll get added over the next few days. Quote
jelida Posted August 9, 2019 Posted August 9, 2019 Is lot 1978 really an F28? Looks a lot like an F20 to me. Jerry Quote
terrysoldpennies Posted August 9, 2019 Posted August 9, 2019 (edited) I think its a 2+g F20 like you Jerry The obv. 5 normally has a long in cursed cut fold at the top of the outer ribbon which narrows towards the knot. There also seems to be a very faint signature under the bust on this coin, and not totally cut away as on the obv. 5 Edited August 9, 2019 by terrysoldpennies Quote
secret santa Posted August 9, 2019 Posted August 9, 2019 Well spotted Gents - I put this up on my website without thoroughly checking. Shame on me ! Quote
1949threepence Posted August 9, 2019 Author Posted August 9, 2019 LCA do make technical errors. If you look at their 1908 pennies, there are no less than three 166's misattributed as 165's, and a 165, wrongly ID'd as a 164. Quote
Bronze & Copper Collector Posted August 9, 2019 Posted August 9, 2019 3 hours ago, terrysoldpennies said: I think its a 2+g F20 like you Jerry The obv. 5 normally has a long in cursed cut fold at the top of the outer ribbon which narrows towards the knot. There also seems to be a very faint signature under the bust on this coin, and not totally cut away as on the obv. 5 I concur completely with your assessment. Obverse 2, reverse G, F-20 Quote
blakeyboy Posted August 9, 2019 Posted August 9, 2019 Thanks Terry- I never took note of that fold in the ribbon before. Quote
Iannich48 Posted August 10, 2019 Posted August 10, 2019 The 1863 florin seems like an optimistic estimate. Vg/Nf £1250-£1500. I need one of these, bit i will not bid for this one. Quote
VickySilver Posted August 11, 2019 Posted August 11, 2019 Indeed, the grading optimistic as well.... Quote
Iannich48 Posted August 11, 2019 Posted August 11, 2019 8 hours ago, VickySilver said: Indeed, the grading optimistic as well.... Yes indeed. Poor/vg is nearer to the mark. Quote
oldcopper Posted August 11, 2019 Posted August 11, 2019 18 hours ago, Iannich48 said: The 1863 florin seems like an optimistic estimate. Vg/Nf £1250-£1500. I need one of these, bit i will not bid for this one. There was Mark Rasmussen's Unc at £14K but that's gone now. For the bigger budget! Quote
Iannich48 Posted August 11, 2019 Posted August 11, 2019 2 hours ago, oldcopper said: There was Mark Rasmussen's Unc at £14K but that's gone now. For the bigger budget! Yes oldcopper, myself and vickysilver both loved that coin. Quote
VickySilver Posted August 11, 2019 Posted August 11, 2019 I had a GEF specimen at one time, and wife on leaving me took it - have not replaced it since...Boo hoo.... I did get a proof specimen but would readily trade it for the currency. Quote
secret santa Posted August 30, 2019 Posted August 30, 2019 Anyone agree with me that lot 1979 is Freeman 29 not 32 ? Quote
jelida Posted August 30, 2019 Posted August 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, secret santa said: Anyone agree with me that lot 1979 is Freeman 29 not 32 ? Well, yes, now I look at it (which I hadn’t previously) it looks much more an F29. They haven’t done well with this batch of pennies, at least three are plain wrong or dubious in the extreme. Jerry Quote
terrysoldpennies Posted August 30, 2019 Posted August 30, 2019 (edited) I thought that to , it says all major details clear !! Round top lighthouse - Prominent square rock under shield , I don't think so Edited August 30, 2019 by terrysoldpennies Quote
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