azda Posted September 22, 2016 Posted September 22, 2016 I saw Jaggys post but nothing else, time was pushing on though and I had to get out the door for work Quote
VickySilver Posted September 22, 2016 Posted September 22, 2016 No, had to drop my son off at school as we are on a 5 hr time difference from GMT. I want to try the chat out, maybe on the weekend. Any highlights? Quote
1949threepence Posted September 22, 2016 Author Posted September 22, 2016 Just got home from work where I was unfortunately delayed. But found that I was successful with 2 of my 3 bids. Got lots 969, the F22 and lot 1423, the F32, at £130 & £400 respectively. Failed on lot 1422, the F18. Quote
Rob Posted September 22, 2016 Posted September 22, 2016 Came second on the only thing I was interested in Quote
Nordle11 Posted September 22, 2016 Posted September 22, 2016 6 minutes ago, Rob said: Came second on the only thing I was interested in I didn't even come second in the one I wanted Quote
jelida Posted September 22, 2016 Posted September 22, 2016 I got the 1889 penny, and the F18 (sorry Mike). The latter has the potential to be a nice coin once the thick old lacquer is removed, the surfaces are fine and should tone quite quickly. Will post before/ after pics in due course. The 1889 is one of the best I have seen. The 1911 Gouby x shot off of course, I only got one bid in. It is one of those you hope to find unrecognized at a bargain price, so I will keep on dreaming! Jerry Quote
1949threepence Posted September 22, 2016 Author Posted September 22, 2016 10 minutes ago, jelida said: I got the 1889 penny, and the F18 (sorry Mike). The latter has the potential to be a nice coin once the thick old lacquer is removed, the surfaces are fine and should tone quite quickly. Will post before/ after pics in due course. The 1889 is one of the best I have seen. The 1911 Gouby x shot off of course, I only got one bid in. It is one of those you hope to find unrecognized at a bargain price, so I will keep on dreaming! Jerry No worries, Jerry & well done Two out of three I regard as a success. Besides which the F32 was my main target. Will look forward to your pics, and will post mine as soon as I receive the coins. Quote
jaggy Posted September 22, 2016 Posted September 22, 2016 Got the James II sixpence listed as 1686 ESC 773, I think it is 1686 - 6 over 6 & 8 over 6 - ESC774 1 Quote
cathrine Posted September 22, 2016 Posted September 22, 2016 I bought the 1871 penny for a hammer price of £1,700. I've been in the market for a high grade specimen for quite some time, but this is the first time that I've seen a combination of condition attributes so pleasing to my sense of esthetic values. I'm glad to hear that Vicky agreed with my assessment of this coin's virtues. 7 Quote
1949threepence Posted September 22, 2016 Author Posted September 22, 2016 Re: the 1871 - £800 to £1000 was an incredibly low estimate for a coin of such quality. Which is basically consistent with all we have said about their estimates being on the low side, and more often than not, being surpassed, sometimes by many orders of magnitude. 1 Quote
jaggy Posted September 22, 2016 Posted September 22, 2016 27 minutes ago, 1949threepence said: Re: the 1871 - £800 to £1000 was an incredibly low estimate for a coin of such quality. Which is basically consistent with all we have said about their estimates being on the low side, and more often than not, being surpassed, sometimes by many orders of magnitude. Indeed! My 'win' was £400 over the high estimate; which I expected. Fortunately, it was under what I expected, and was willing, to pay. Quote
Rob Posted September 22, 2016 Posted September 22, 2016 1 hour ago, 1949threepence said: Re: the 1871 - £800 to £1000 was an incredibly low estimate for a coin of such quality. Which is basically consistent with all we have said about their estimates being on the low side, and more often than not, being surpassed, sometimes by many orders of magnitude. They have to be low to get competitive bidding. As long as the price to be paid offers the chance of someone to make a few quid, you will have multiple interested parties. Set them too high and your bidder will be the person who is actively seeking an example and is willing to pay book price.The alternative to low estimates is to set them at retail and hope. You see it time and time again at Baldwins where the estimate is about retail price, the coin opens at 20% below (which equates to low estimate once the juice is added) and there is usually one bidder only. The same could be said for the St.James's sale. The estimates in this case being OTT in a quite a few instances (highlighted elsewhere on this forum), but it only requires one person to bid and commission has been made. If the vendor puts a high reserve on it, unless there are no sellers' fees, he will have to pay a fee for the unsolds, so money is still made. Quote
1949threepence Posted September 22, 2016 Author Posted September 22, 2016 55 minutes ago, jaggy said: Indeed! My 'win' was £400 over the high estimate; which I expected. Fortunately, it was under what I expected, and was willing, to pay. 56 minutes ago, jaggy said: Indeed! My 'win' was £400 over the high estimate; which I expected. Fortunately, it was under what I expected, and was willing, to pay. Superlative coin, Jaggy. 41 minutes ago, PWA 1967 said: Who bought the Gouby X Don't know, Pete. But if you listened in to the auction audio, it was very apparent that there were many internet global buyers from the USA principally, but also from Russia, Japan and even China. So who knows where it ended up - although hopefully with a forum member. Quote
VickySilver Posted September 23, 2016 Posted September 23, 2016 Cathrine, good work there on the 1871. I think this illustrates the value of being there in-person, so doubly good really. This coin reminds me from the pics, of the Rt. Honorable Gerald Jackson's pennies from this era. Quote
azda Posted September 23, 2016 Posted September 23, 2016 12 hours ago, cathrine said: I bought the 1871 penny for a hammer price of £1,700. I've been in the market for a high grade specimen for quite some time, but this is the first time that I've seen a combination of condition attributes so pleasing to my sense of esthetic values. I'm glad to hear that Vicky agreed with my assessment of this coin's virtues. Is that ghosting by Victorias throat or am I seeing 2 scratches? Lovely coin otherwise Quote
mrbadexample Posted September 23, 2016 Posted September 23, 2016 2 minutes ago, azda said: Is that ghosting by Victorias throat or am I seeing 2 scratches? Lovely coin otherwise Looks like a die clash to me. Top of Britannia's legs? Quote
azda Posted September 23, 2016 Posted September 23, 2016 Just now, mrbadexample said: Looks like a die clash to me. Top of Britannia's legs? Possibly...... Quote
Nordle11 Posted September 23, 2016 Posted September 23, 2016 4 minutes ago, azda said: Is that ghosting by Victorias throat or am I seeing 2 scratches? Lovely coin otherwise It's a die clash, quite a few of the bun heads have it in varying degrees. Quote
azda Posted September 23, 2016 Posted September 23, 2016 15 hours ago, jaggy said: Got the James II sixpence listed as 1686 ESC 773, I think it is 1686 - 6 over 6 & 8 over 6 - ESC774 That's a nice one Jaggy, these are scarce in these grades and have seen EFs selling at £1100 or there abouts, how much was this one? Quote
1949threepence Posted September 23, 2016 Author Posted September 23, 2016 (edited) 55 minutes ago, mrbadexample said: Looks like a die clash to me. Top of Britannia's legs? 53 minutes ago, Nordle11 said: It's a die clash, quite a few of the bun heads have it in varying degrees. I would definitely agree with die clash rather than ghosting. There is evidence of die clashing on both the obverse and reverse on that 1871. The area by the Queen's throat, is possibly one of the most frequent points for die clashing to show on buns, in this case the reversed image of Britannia's leg. It is, of course, extremely common, so doesn't really detract. Edited September 23, 2016 by 1949threepence Quote
Nick Posted September 23, 2016 Posted September 23, 2016 Looks like a die clash, with almost a 20 degree rotation between obverse and reverse. 3 Quote
secret santa Posted September 23, 2016 Posted September 23, 2016 Yes, the folds of Britannia's dress often appear near Victoria's neck, producing the effect known as "crow's foot", and is seen on many bun pennies as Mike says. Quote
PWA 1967 Posted September 23, 2016 Posted September 23, 2016 Thats a good picture to explain Nick. Quote
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