mhcoins Posted October 5, 2016 Posted October 5, 2016 i only slab coins that will benefit from grading 1 Quote
PWA 1967 Posted October 5, 2016 Posted October 5, 2016 32 minutes ago, mhcoins said: that price was determined in auction dear sir. Yes dear sir i understand that and you slab coins to benefit i also understand. But your a dealer so assume the benefit is mainly for yourself DEAR SIR. Quote
mhcoins Posted October 5, 2016 Posted October 5, 2016 It's a benefit open to all, just select who you use wisely 2 Quote
mhcoins Posted October 5, 2016 Posted October 5, 2016 It's seems this forum has become CGS / LCGS obsessed. Whatever happened to everyone sharing there interesting finds , knowledge, etc, etc. 2 Quote
PWA 1967 Posted October 5, 2016 Posted October 5, 2016 unfortunately you and others took it upon themselves to start having a go for no other reason than causing a fuss. Quote
Chingford Posted October 5, 2016 Posted October 5, 2016 Each to their own, I have no problem with any slabbing companies and also feel everyone is entitled to protect, grade and store their coins as they see fit, my objection is mud slinging based on a false argument. Nice to see Someone turn up this time 1 Quote
mhcoins Posted October 5, 2016 Posted October 5, 2016 Maybe we are looking at grading coins at different ends of the spectrum. I havent stated that cgs grades are poor, however from my perspective a cgs slabbed coin is the same as a raw coin. Whether you agree with my opinion oR not it doesnt matter. Im not wrong as neither Are you For liking them. We are ENTITLED to our own opinions. If your a penny collector there are clearly benefits to cgs's systems, as they statE freeman numbers. Lets just agree to disagree and put this tiresome topic to rest. 1 Quote
PWA 1967 Posted October 5, 2016 Posted October 5, 2016 (edited) 4 hours ago, mhcoins said: Theres the exact reason why cgs grading is a waste of time it adds no value. That is the most positive comment you have made HAT OFF. So as collectors of which the majority of the forum are we should buy cgs slabs as they are cheaper. Thank you Edited October 5, 2016 by PWA 1967 Quote
mhcoins Posted October 5, 2016 Posted October 5, 2016 It's more in reference to those who continue to submit to them ie. Money down the drain 1 Quote
PWA 1967 Posted October 5, 2016 Posted October 5, 2016 17 minutes ago, mhcoins said: It's more in reference to those who continue to submit to them ie. Money down the drain Only money and i am not bothered about a few quid on grading fees. I do it for myself not you or anyone else Quote
mhcoins Posted October 5, 2016 Posted October 5, 2016 As I said earlier neither of our opinions are wrong Quote
bhx7 Posted October 5, 2016 Posted October 5, 2016 (edited) This is a "Discussion" that has no winners. At the end of the day everyone is different. If slabbed coins is your thing then that is purely down to that person. CGS/LCGS are no better or worse than any other slabbing company and why should we be the same as the US. The UK grading system has always been different to the US system, why should slabbing from the UK not create a system that works here. I have never had any coins slabbed, although I do have 6 in CGS slabs. I have no preference for any grading company and at present am happy with my coins, I wont say RAW as that to me donates that my coins are somehow less than Slabbed coins, they are not. I am happy with my grading and anyone who has had coins from me I would hope would agree. Pete is a great guy and has been a brilliant abassador to new collectors and has helped out lots of people. He also has a passion for his genre of collecting so kudos to him for sticking to his principles. Also in response to the fact that slabbing makes coins more valuable, I can say from watching coins avidly selling in both auctions and in shops that they certainly do generate sometimes a substancial premium. Anyway, I put my feelings forward about CGS at its closure and reopenning as LCGS as I had been an avid user of their site and was swaying toward sending a few pieces in. But i made my feelings clear at the time and then left it. This continuous rant over and over isn't going to change things other then seriously miff people off. Well thats my two pennies worth.... have fun collecting folks Edited October 5, 2016 by bhx7 2 Quote
PWA 1967 Posted October 5, 2016 Posted October 5, 2016 I dont want to rant Brian ......but more defend otherwise it gets out of control with the high percentage of forum members always stating negatives. Be lucky.....Keep smiling and happy collecting 1 Quote
Guest Jam Posted February 18, 2017 Posted February 18, 2017 Does anyone know if CGS have re-introduced their slabbing tiers? It does look like their flat fee £15.75 has been abolished? Quote
Sword Posted February 19, 2017 Author Posted February 19, 2017 On 18/02/2017 at 7:28 AM, Guest Jam said: Does anyone know if CGS have re-introduced their slabbing tiers? It does look like their flat fee £15.75 has been abolished? Not as far as I know but I have not used them since the demise of CGS. It still states "Charges per coin are the greater of the flat fee or 2% of the coins value after grading and according to the LCGS Valuations By Grade. The flat fee £15.75 per coin." on their website. However, their LCGS' charges for hammered have never been clear cut. Quote
azda Posted February 20, 2017 Posted February 20, 2017 8 hours ago, Sword said: Not as far as I know but I have not used them since the demise of CGS. It still states "Charges per coin are the greater of the flat fee or 2% of the coins value after grading and according to the LCGS Valuations By Grade. The flat fee £15.75 per coin." on their website. However, their LCGS' charges for hammered have never been clear cut. Who's valuing the coins, LCGS or from a Spink value because LCGS always puts a greater value on their slabs even though their values have nothing to do with market value, just a guesstimate Quote
Sword Posted February 20, 2017 Author Posted February 20, 2017 1 hour ago, azda said: Who's valuing the coins, LCGS or from a Spink value because LCGS always puts a greater value on their slabs even though their values have nothing to do with market value, just a guesstimate "according to the LCGSValuations By Grade." i.e. their valuations and not Spink's. Rather unfortunately their valuations are sometimes way over the top. Some of the coins I slabbed with CGS in the past were given CGS values of three times what I paid. And to be fair to them, they do occasionally give realistic values. Quote
Nordle11 Posted February 20, 2017 Posted February 20, 2017 8 minutes ago, Sword said: "according to the LCGSValuations By Grade." i.e. their valuations and not Spink's. Rather unfortunately their valuations are sometimes way over the top. Some of the coins I slabbed with CGS in the past were given CGS values of three times what I paid. And to be fair to them, they do occasionally give realistic values. Even a broken clock is right twice a day 1 Quote
Sword Posted February 20, 2017 Author Posted February 20, 2017 11 hours ago, Nordle11 said: Even a broken clock is right twice a day Not this one ... 4 Quote
The Coinery Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 10 hours ago, Sword said: Not this one ... Will it work if you take a "Second" or a "Minute" to give it a "Hand" or two ? :-) Quote
Nordle11 Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 2 hours ago, The Coinery said: Will it work if you take a "Second" or a "Minute" to give it a "Hand" or two ? :-) Oh god please don't start that again Quote
azda Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 22 minutes ago, Nordle11 said: Oh god please don't start that again 1 Quote
Coinery Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 Photographed by LCGS, and probably the only post of mine you will ever find here! 1 Quote
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