An unusual 1860 Copper Penny

[Coppers]

Spotted this in the upcoming Lockdale's auction. 

1860 penny

Whoever wins it will likely end up paying far less than it's consignor.

[RLC35]

I think they have that one attributed wrong...that looks like the real thing to me. It has the clash marks under Victoria's chin, and the angled scratch mark under the bun. The way the 6 is cut on the bottom is typical of some of the 1860's! Someone may get a bargain! 

[1949threepence]

1 hour ago, Coppers said:

Spotted this in the upcoming Lockdale's auction. 

1860 penny

Whoever wins it will likely end up paying far less than it's consignor.

Agree with Bob. It looks like a classic 1860/59 to me. They mostly all look pretty much like that.   

Edited December 24, 2015 by 1949threepence
omitted a word

[secret santa]

1 hour ago, 1949threepence said:

Agree with Bob. It looks like a classic 1860/59 to me. They mostly all look pretty much like that.   

I agree, too - everything looks right to me.

SS

[VickySilver]

Wow, interesting in that it has been circulated more than most....@100 quid, I'm in. Well, don't need the date so somebody else should report on their success.

[pies]

Well i will have a punt and see how it goes

[1949threepence]

13 minutes ago, pies said:

Well i will have a punt and see how it goes

I will too, although I bet it'll be in the crosshairs of many collectors by now.  

[scott]

I need the date.

hmm

[DaveG38]

So is it the consensus that Lockdales have it wrong (they have presumably examined it in hand) or is everyone on here just a little too optimistic?

[pies]

ive checked a few pics and the marks under the chin suggest to me its legit

[PWA 1967]

Its spot on

[DaveG38]

1 hour ago, pies said:

ive checked a few pics and the marks under the chin suggest to me its legit

I agree, which makes the estimated price out by a factor of at least 10 and probably rather more.

[pies]

thing is though do you bid the true value with that description, you have no comebacks at all

 

Coin will probably be pulled before the auction for proper checking

 

[PWA 1967]

It was worth about £1k without anyone mentioning it but now its been on here could bring closer to £1700.

Its right and again missed by the auctioneer but i gaurantee the estimate and description will change

[alfnail]

Definitely the real thing, and surprising that Lockdales make this mistake. Attached pictures for reference, obverse with usual markings as noted by other members and doubled (die clash) ribbons, again always present............ date close up picture with same protrusions (highlighted in red) always seen and clearly also on the Lockdales piece.  

[RLC35]

On 12/24/2015 at 8:42 AM, 1949threepence said:

Agree with Bob. It looks like a classic 1860/59 to me. They mostly all look pretty much like that.   

The bottom of the 6 is broken on some examples, and fully formed on others. I have one of each. I think the fully formed 6 is harder to obtain.

[1949threepence]

4 hours ago, RLC35 said:

The bottom of the 6 is broken on some examples, and fully formed on others. I have one of each. I think the fully formed 6 is harder to obtain.

Agreed Bob - the majority do indeed appear to have the broken 6.

[azda]

I think the price of this coin has just shot up judging by the interested parties here

[pies]

 

Lot removed. Lol

[PWA 1967]

Wouldnt be suprised to see it in the next LCA auction.

[azda]

Would'nt be surprised if the owner has seen this thread lol