DrLarry

good grief I just looked at that site it is full of fakes obvious ones it make you of course ask the question is anything authentic ?

interesting it is strange how some parts of history have fascination the Jacobite period being one , thanks I am reading it.

oh thanks for that I also as Paddy said do not collect irish coins but they are interesting as part of the historical connections. I have always wanted a St Patrick's farthing but these days with all the fake ones around it is always a bit of a gamble

I am not sure if it of interest in this thread but there is a limerick Half penny James II 1689 listed on e bay at the moment I noticed and it also has the same N not reversed. It is a strange character seemingly having been over stamped possibly I suppose on gun money??? apologies if this is not exactly about this topic

Vulture culture I suppose in many ways is driven by need , hunger, human nature is so difficult to understand. In S Africa the ubuntu philosophy is supposed to act as a social concept that attempts to care for eachother, even here this usually gets manipulated into grab and snatch and the sharing is just for one's own family. Altruism versus the selfish gene ......I am sure I will never understand what makes humans act but I have to keep believing but I suppose deep down I know it is all unrealistic ideology

In many ways I understand the terrible problems that faced by any charitable process. Sadly human nature is more often than not focused on "I want my slice of the pie", even if that means that someone elses family is trodden on along the line. The relatively less power you have to be around the table eating the pie the more likely you are to be the one in greatest needs. , The seating arrangements at these these "tables within tables" pass along the line which means the most disenfranchised stand to lose all chances of even crumbs off the table. . What then do we do about the problem? perhaps that is the key issue. Even if there is corruption ,should we always decide by default that we should do nothing? making the individual get very little at all to suffer twice , once in the whatever the difficulty is and then secondly by our decision to withdraw support. Humans when they act as a group tend to respond very differently to the way they act as individuals, sadly most people act to put self first and foremost no matter what the issues is or where the group is. I have also seen it on both ends charity workers manipulate , such people are highly motivated divisive personalities and they develop their skills like parasites feeding off those who want to see those in need supported in some way. The same with the extraordinarily rich who want to have their own little stories to chat with their other very rich friends around their own dinner tables. I have seen the very rich charter personal jets to travel to the charities because it saved them the inconvenience of getting scheduled flights at inconvenient times of the day. It is hard when you see both these types of behaviour , from rich to poor , officials at all levels and governments exploit some of the few good people and again it's important to remember those kids in those schools or disenfranchised from the table. To be honest I do not know how humans cope with the things they do to each other I am sure apes do the same as do other pack animals (but then humans do like to see themselves as better than animals ) . I think what each person must do is to identify some project they can feel will guarantee their personal commitment. The only problem is that a large percentage would rather support a cat or a dog than another human so we rely on an elected oligarchy to take the decisions for us with international development as most of us do not have full appreciation of the facts, You will not be surprised to hear I have very little faith in the ability of populations to make serious decisions outside the self interest of their own little tribes which would rarely take into account those from tribes less fortunate. But of course we seem to like these popular powers to the people to make decisions when governments and leaders are too weak to deal with their own tribes internally . I am not sure why I am defending this it just feels right to try even if I don't succeed.

I will also revisit mine and see if I can recall the legend errors I noticed which led me to collect so many. Larry

Yes 67 is fine Elizabeth I I Paddy let me know what you have in terms of kilos that you might let me have a price on. Thanks Larry

Does anyone have a bulk load of Elizabeth II pennies they want to sell?

yes very true certainly different from yours, but it is nice to see these things I did not hold out for her and in any case she is rather damaged I just happened to notice the gap I am not going to pick about under the verdigris. I dont have many G V pennies just one of each basic variety in a decent grade for completion sake , there is a nice softness to the design

yes I dont think they are long enough as you say Jerry

sure but it is in terrible condition I purchased a load of "dug" coins for a £5 I have not really looked at it properly you may well tell me it is nothing just looked a little different to me

i have asked myself that very same question many times it made no sense to me at all , other than the fact that there are no others until 1926 are there ? I always assumed that is the only rational answer ....but I agree it is a very strange thing

oh really on two dates? just goes to show there are so many things we have not yet discovered and as you say tip of the iceberg who is to say what someone might find !!!

yes I am pretty much done with buying I have thousands to prepare and admire across the ages from staters to sixpences 3000 years of history is enough even for me ....I did find one of those funny old 1922's with the strange trident detached from the teeth the other day. My modified 26's sadly would not rank high on my best of bunch

oh he was the Croatian that scored was he not. I am sure he is quite lovable but I have no idea what he is like, other than he scores goals

you will be happy to know that I have spent the last couple of days looking at the area around the ribbons of the 1967 and a set of very similar arrangements are showing up very nicely using the new method. I have taken about 150 images which I am preparing now for you. Not wishing to direct your interpretation I have to accept that these are not the easiest things to see initially and to understand the closest approximation I can find is Guernica by Picasso the content is obvious and a bull is a BULL AS a lion is a lion in this but they form a series of interconnecting overlapping patterns like a Venn diagram some of which show visual distortion and altered simultaneous perspective (similar to the way cubism works or modernism) and before anyone jumps of the historical inadequacy that modernism did not exist at the time of William III early proto geometric art or cycladic art also shows some aspects of fractured altered perspective in the 8 C BC and pieces like the Lion Man from Germany is animalism non realism and that is what 40.000 years BP

I took that picture in 2006 ten years I started finding them. it is about the only picture that i have ever been happy looking at, I am not of the selfie generation. I am a leo and my name is Larry like the Lamb, it is well noted in my book that this bizarre set of connectives has not gone unnoticed by me too. I also spent many years looking after lions and big cats walking with Cheetahs and almost every day with a lion or ten sitting above my head with me in the cage feeding them and I have been squirted over by tigers and one of the few people in the world silly enough or unique enough to have stuck my finger between the pads of a large Bengal tigers Paw. I also love tigger and winnie the pooh but that does not make me bouncy. I also love Trilobites but I have never found an image of arthropod in a coin as yet. But I enjoyed your interjection, have a point, because the audience enjoyed the challenge.

I do think as a very obvious outsider to this that you all should be very proud of what they achieved and I think that young manager showed a wisdom and philosophy that has been lacking in a lot of football for many years. I have to admit a sense of pride listening to him over the last few weeks. I hope it impacts on all things football over the coming years ....but well done

well it seems to have gone very silent in here ????

I will concede that I do hope things go well for you all tonight .........

it was the E on the 53 that intrigued me hence the reason to collect so many. Please let there not be other things that interest me I am not sure I will afford it in the future.

Morning Ian, when you were looking at the 53's could you tell me did you ever come across one that has a raised dot in the field toward the outer edge across from the right side of the portrait? Many thanks Larry

Yes one chewed a lump out of me the other day and drew blood. I felt guilty about it but I did kill it, I felt the need to.

well done afnail for approaching this in the way you have. I have been trying to do the same for features of the 1861 and 62 halfpenny but ended up with far too many column descriptors. I enjoy reading about variations and much appreciate your work.