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DrLarry

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  1. yes also like yourself just at 50, and a little bit, would rather we could encourage new users especially women to use the forum, but also more young people to take up collecting. I have learnt so much in the last 4 years since I started collecting again and as I have said to the group before the skills it has helped me reach up through illness has been priceless to me at least. I acknowledge I am keen to jump of values I do not hold to and perhaps jump too quickly for as much as we have the right to express views we also must temper them with some consideration I am just shocked by how internet anonymity allows for some pretty distasteful attitudes . Whilst we can (I hope) all defend our own positions some may not be able to so political correctness serves a purpose to allow a civil society to be civil. Good evening
  2. From the earliest coins designs have been used to make statements that the state controls the weights of precious metals and therefor trade both internally and externally. How have these decisions on how much one lump of gold is worth in one place get translated around the world in ancient time and more recently in standardised ways? The two central characters in the earliest coinage Lydian (according to Herodotus) the people of Asia Minor placed a lion and some other sacrificial animal on the first gold coins. What is the significance of these animals? Later coin designs represent Kingship as close to Gods and in most ancient cultures the head of the state usually had a significant role in the core religious rights. Coins reflect some important methods to put forward propaganda kingship and or religion. can we have a discussion on this very broad topic please? my interest is as coins as small portable pieces of art, but most including all of ours since late saxon times also fulfill propaganda purposes at the same time.
  3. ok if you want lots of examples I am happy to look back and somehow come up with an empirical set of defining parameters as to what would define a group of people as right leaning, far right leaning, centrist and left of centre and or far left. I will check where the discussion was had for completeness and say in which thread it is in. I am also happy to apologise if I said far right leaning when I intended right of centre. what I actually said is lean far to the right of centre " lean far to the right of centre " the construction is to lean far to the right of centre, that is not to go past right of centre it is to lean far to the right of centre. It is not an insult for any of your that do lean right of centre I made the contextual association and held in my head the whole football jingoisms, and the ridiculous thread on Penny whoever she is I dont have a clue possibly a page three girl ...from the sun and this is a right of centre paper . some views on some of these issues and some racists ones I have read together with political comments suggested to me a right slant and not very open minded hence the small C comment
  4. i believe that it was on the barnstable stall thread
  5. in reflecting on my limited experience on the site going back and reading some of the comments racist , political views expressed, attitudes to charity, preoccupation with wine women and money the experience places greater emphasis away from the more liberal towards a somewhat conservative (small c) lean small minded paternalism. In making the references to women and collecting and women not collecting this is one of those tautological arguments. If any women came in and saw that posting the other day it is unlikely that they would stay in for too long so you answer your own conditions.
  6. those are not my definitions they come direct from dictionary definitions socialism is viewed as left of centre and in a discussion we had about Corbyn recently some more views were expressed that suggested a dog would be a better leader surely a dog. Take from that whatever you want. The right? or right of centre? these are not my definiations as I say they are from the english oxford and the collins dictionaries. In the reference to the wateraid scandal then the contributor was suggesting that anyone who did not have access to water or the means to clean river water or could move to where the water was should suffer malthusian consequences. Genocide is a set of actions imposed upon one group based along lines of racial, religious, or cultural difference in order to further the cause of that group with the ability to impose , by force, one view above that of others. Racial segregation imposing severe reductions in the basic necessities of life, so that one group may benefit from the resources of a country above others, often results in genocide by proxy.
  7. Working with kids who had to pick rubbish off the town waste disposal site to find scraps of food who now have their own kids also with whom i work living in a small brick built house rather than the tin shack that was rat infested cold damp with no sanitation, a solar powered geyser for hot water and access to clean water is a better position than they had before and at the very least they have the right to access education and can fight alongside others for still meagre jobs it takes several generations to re-buid after the kind of onslaught white apartheid imposed and at least you have a vote to remove or change the politics. I imagine it must be hard for those who have not heard the stories of children and their hopes to grasp the difference that the right to chose has. Such situations will always be a hard road especially as I said rebuilding after many of the resources are now stripped by many hundreds of years of colonial rule
  8. I am happy to stand by that definition yet again : one contributor says he believes that white rule and disenfranchising people on the grounds of colour is a better condition to be in that the one where there is democracy
  9. well having spent 10 years there working with black and coloured people most of them would rather have freedom in a mess (your view) than to be controlled herded and disenfranchised , if you believe that freedom and democracy have such little value and your view is based on economics then I rest my case.
  10. thanks for that it has many of the features I would like in the processing application
  11. I would hate to have to copy and paste the ridiculous comments that were made about dealing with poverty and water access in tertiary and secondary demographic transitional types but comments which suggest if a person cannot reach water then it is of no interest to the individual in question and they deserve all they get presumably ultimately death, likely caused by dehydration which when you see that in a baby is not a pleasant site ....to paraphrase then I believe very strongly that this is a far right of centre position. It is the ultimate Malthusian argument that populations are controlled by pestilence, starvation, war and death a position held by most sane commentators as being in direct opposition to the UN declaration of Human rights. I was answering paddy who asked a valid question after excusing himself from that right wing position by asking valid questions. I repeat the references to macroeconomics of countries such as Romania and Zimbabwe , South Africa under white supremacist law during apartheid, all to some extent were affected for many years by UK government policy at differing times. I am fully aware that I follow avidly the values of Noam Chomsky in my value set in regard to market economies, economics and capitalism and the effects it has on poorer nations. I would therefore place myself left of centre neither is an extreme left of centre or right of centre. In the context of the discussion three out of the five contributors felt confident enough to follow the right of centre or leaning further off centre to right wing positions when they contributed. if not a value held by those individuals then they showed a lack of judgment over the topic to link a completely different set of controlling factors to the story of a child who may have to walk for 3 hours there and back to the nearest water source perhaps twice a day. usually the girls are forced into this position hence losing a chance of education. Most societies are sadly paternalistic and will remain so until women and girls gain education to challenge this situation and it is one of the Key Millennial Goals (missed) that most countries ascribed to under various UN conventions.
  12. in the example in context to the discussion on water aid the view held by the contributors seemed to me to be based on a principal of market forces geographical position and access to water predicate who has value in the world and who does not. It seemed along with the definition above to contradictory to the left of centre approach which supports the reduction in the gap between rich and poor with supporting measure (perhaps including charity). In the discussion that the response related to the view was right of centre and seemed to be based on a series of values which were neither centre or left of centre
  13. to hold a set of You can describe a person or political party as right-of-centre if they have political views which are closer to capitalism and conservatism than to socialism but which are not very extreme. politics closer to conservatism and capitalism than to socialism, but not very extreme The extreme left means the followers of principles of Marxist philosophy. The extreme right is a government which believes in capitalism. The median between the two is Socialism. Left of centre is the centre between the left and socialism. The ideals of leftists and socialistic ones are taken. It will not be extreme left or purely socialistic. You can also call it moderate left politics. Left of Centre believe in working within the established system to improve social justice. It opposes wide economic gap between the rich and poor and supports measures to reduce the gap. Progressive income tax laws, child labour laws, limits to working hours, minimum wage laws, working conditions are some of the fields Left of Centre support. Unlike far left which propoundes the complete equality of outcome, the left of centre, believes equal opportunity improves equality of opportunity of society. Right of centre is the median between the extreme right i.e. capitalistic economy and Socialistic economy. Here all the good that are beneficial to the state from both capitalistic and socialistic economies are taken. In a way Indian economy is right of centre. It is also called moderate right. Right of centre is closer to the right than the right wing variants. Liberty, equality of opportunity, personal freedom and economic development under rule of law is provided. These governments which are founded on social and political values provide for all personal freedoms and human rights, as enshrined in universal declaration of human rights. Free and fair elections, organisation of effective parliamentary opposition, freedom of speech etc are provided for.
  14. yes and it works very well in many Indian and Malawian settings allowing individuals to take out tiny loans and build something for themselves and their family and this in turn often feeds back into the community
  15. well it is hardly surprising they are not interested. My discussion on Mugabe was in relation to the issue of the impact of charity western values and the role of countries in elevating certain individuals that suit their political needs at a certain time....hence it has nothing to do with coin collecting Right of centre is any position that is right of centre it requires no definition by me there are certain values held by the centre politic and certain that are left of centre and others that are right of centre. Perhaps you are having difficulty following the feed which is a defence on the aspect of the role of charity and possible explanation of geopolitical power following on from an attitude which was grounded on very little intelligent due process. Paddy asked a question and before I could answer as you so rightly pointed out he had some good points the moderator closed down the ill conceived posting. I personally thought it deserved some explanation and pulled upon two or three examples where the role of international development and politics had been misdirected.
  16. yes I agree that balanced approaches are best and I hope that is what we may have more of. In that one instance and considering the number of active participants that last thread came across as very much slanted in that direction especially the ease in which it blossomed. Causes are important and adherence does not preclude balanced participation or view. I have many causes I can still be very flexible and happy to apologise if I get something wrong but then when I say something I try to consider with some care what I write in a forum in order not to cause offence. In my own ideas and theories there are many elements that are so off the deep end that I cannot wonder some find them strange I stick to them as a matter of commitment to idea which may take some years to follow through on. In the coin world as in any other world there are many new and exciting ways to discover something, be that varieties or strange patterns but at the core of that is willingness to cause no offence and to remain open minded. I will however show I have enough confidence not to be bullied, I won't keep my mouth shut if I see something offencive.... that is simply the way I show my life experience in all types of forums.
  17. oh that is interesting , perhaps by this time they knew that the copper pennies were on their last legs as I think many questions had already been tabled in parliament about the state of the pennies in circulation perhaps using the proofs was reasonable to consider especially if by 1858 they had been considering changes to the metal? does anyone have the bronze proof in their collection? what is the size of the 1 in the date is it small or the same size as the general population?
  18. yes I think so too although there are some interesting features on the 5 at the top of this one and the smaller 8 has been moved and the small 1
  19. interestingly the 1 is over a much smaller 1
  20. yes maybe but interestingly this one does not have a W.W on the trunk
  21. one other intriguing thing is that I have a 58 where the 5 appears to be over a 3 with a small bulge in the lower loop of the 8 is it all all possible that the 8 is over a 9 and they reused the proof die for 1839 Penny ?
  22. I have just re-imaged mine upside down and the most interesting thing about it is that bulge on the lower part of the B which on the one I have quite clearly is defined with a continuance into the main part of the lower 8 to me it looks like a 3 under an 8 which might make some sense of the strange angle of the vertical on the right side which seems a little off for a 7 note I have inverted the image
  23. I have one which appears to be the same I always assumed it to be over a 7 however on this one there is less compression on the right side
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