DrLarry

Yes , but you know me I always want to know "WHY?" I must have been a terrible child asking that all the time....no wonder my parents sold me at 8 years old

well if she likes it that much ask her to set up the pose, (if she can) and you will be in stitches....or at least she will if you get it right get at least one stitch. Breathing deeply through the nose helps with the build up of lactic acid

How long would it take to prepare a master die and all the other paraphernalia? There is reference that he also prepared the individual punches for the legend. Two sets must have been prepared because the lettering changes from the curly bases on the half penny to the solid chunky letters and these changes seem intermittent during the 1861 and 62 issues. My apologies I am still (steel) a little rusty on the process.

well thank you however for making a feature out of the half pennies it has been nice to have a look for a few things again. I will list a few more things adding to this section on half pennies if you do not mind. I have realised that sometimes it is better to keep a thread going than to start a new one. Let me know if you have found a new species, I in a rather mad way see them as extinct species and we are piecing together the phylogeny.

I find this flaw on the forehead fascinating it is one of the crazy things I want to find an answer to that is not "it is as it is !!"

I'm sure I am but my eyesight is so bad microscopes allow me to enjoy the subject so I suppose it is a double edged sword. I will one day find the right method to show you some of the beautiful things I have found but it is so horrendously complicated I must find a way to show you all.

The I in Victoria is over a smaller I and the 1 in the date is over punched. I find it intriguing that the lettering has often been altered from the older curly bases to the straighter more solid type. The F of half looks to have been repaired almost looks like a an I I have noticed it often looses the lower serif and the base.

OK I will take a look at your 61's I particularly like the round lighthouse type so I will investigate for you soon. I'm going over to the lakes tomorrow or up the Northumberland coast if the sun might shine... A rare thing so I can get some paintings prepared.

sorry rotographics

good question someone at reprographics I think the email address was in the freeman book the newer version from a couple of years back.

when I have found a new something or other I did get in touch with someone who will be putting together the freeman editions in the future and they did note down the errors and said it would get listed, (not your rock I hasten to add ) that is your rock and you must now carry it off into your own ownership LOL . I will have about 20 alterations for the two as I mentioned many of them re-punches and perhaps that will swell the coffers of the half penny market a little. I find them useful in allowing me to see my patterns ...more so often than pennies and cheaper .....LOL

here is the 2 lost

I dont really know I have never come across anyone having looked at it. I have to honest with you Paddy and say I noted it before but I just never read much about it. Certainly there does seem to be some alteration of all the letters up the side. The only problem with this I have is why on earth would you not remodel that ugly lighthouse at the time, but perhaps it acts as a buffer to prevent damage to the Britannia. I enjoy sharpening my teeth my friend. if not you better register it, as I say I have not looked in any or either Peck or Freeman half pennies appear not to be sexy enough for most. Personally I love them I think I have 10 or 12 error types on my list for each the 1861 and 62. who do you tell ?

it may or may not be relevant but the date has also been altered there is the scar of the 2 to the left of the 2 on mine slightly larger and lower and not overlapping with the 2 in the date and this "new" two is very crisp. There seem to be many I have noted where a slender 2 is overstamped by another 2 with several "bits" sticking out , perhaps the die weakened and had to be re-ground below was restamped weakening the point against the circle which then had to be ground as bits broke off.

it seems to be on a 62 that shows the F over a rotated F or a P (but of course it cannot be a P ) but there is a little raised loop I will show you later

here you go

oh I have just noticed one which may confirm that there is one with no rock intentionally like the one you show this one shows a very sharp straight line to the horizon and it most obviously has been cut that way like a small ramp when the phone is charged I will imagine it and add it, Again having done little academic allocation of the die number I would say that there is a type without rock and several transitionals

the removal of the inner circle here may play some significance if the area has been ground perhaps there appears to be some change whether deliberate or not i cannot say. Let me know if any of that helps I can look more if you need any other help I would say at those numbers it is about 5-8% with no rock unless of course I selected them subconsciously thinking they looked different. I try to hold too many differences in my head these days LOL

from the quick scan of 40 here easily accessible, 2 with the door have no rock one has a fragment and interestingly there is a large chunk out of the inner circle on one .... I am going to take your word on the reverse type mostly certainly some of mine are missing the rock, negligent of me I had not checked if this had any significance. To me looking at the samples I have which I sadly cannot post yet my phone went dead the rock has been cut away the same scar exists on both examples but the two have a chunk missing either from the inner circle or the horizon. hard to know if either or i will look more closely. I would look at more for you sir but I am trying to stay away from 1862 and 1861 half pennies , I am a bit of an addict.

but then as I type that I have another with the door and the rock is there

I will keep looking for you

both of mine have the little door at the base of the lighthouse and there is a large section removed in the first the is just gone and the second it exists in tiny sections but the same scaring and cut away at the horizon touching the inner circle

The one I have has the rock cut away. I find that I have not assigned a die to any I have yet but there is a large removal up against the inner circle I'm not sure if this is normal

I'm not sure but I think I also have one without the rock on the left side. I have tended to go through looking for repairs and over prints.

Yes well that was my observation on the two pictures the tip extended or is the tip removed or broken? Not a coin I've ever really taken much notice of.