The Coinery

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Hi Mick As far as I know there are 2 types of 1946 and 3 types of 1949. No doubt there are more. Here are some pics of mine to give you an idea of what to look for. I could not get the pic of the 1949.03 due to size. Will add after

Morning Pete Back to cold wind and rain. Oh joy for the English weather. I am already looking for dates to go back in December. I am going onto emails now to catch up with 1887Jubilee Will phone you later or tomorrow

Hi I am looking for the best set of Double Florins I can get. Can you let me know what prices you have on your DF's I have a substantial amount of coins of which there maybe one or two you may need. What denominations do you collect ? Regards Guy thecoinery@hotmail.com

Does anyone have interest or information upon the Double Florin denomination ? From my research I can find 13 Double Florins and if you have information or examples for sale please PM me. 1887 - Roman 1 - UNC. 1887 - Roman 1 Proof - Still to find one. 1887 - Arabic 1 - UNC+ 1887 - Arabic 1 Proof - Still to find one. 1887 - Arabic 1 - Dies 1+B - Still to find one. 1887 - Arabic 1 - J in JEB has no left serif and letters in JEB double struck - Still to find one. 1887 - Roman 1 - Broken J in JEB - Still to find one. 1888 - Standard DF 1888 - 2nd I in VIC inverted 1 1889 - Standard DF 1889 - 2nd I in VIC inverted 1 1889 - Davies Dies 2+B 1890 - Standard DF Regards Guy

I have always enjoyed looking at Brockages and coins with errors. Within my collection I have only 5 and I have attached photos. The copper coloured disc is actually or would have been an English 2p I look forward to seeing yours.

My mistake. I don't really use the foreign grading systems. Lovely coin !!!

MS 55 for the Gold Coin but the pics are low res.

1965 - MS 62 1967- MS 63 - Do they down grade for a mis-strike ?

When I first joined this site I met Peter PWA1967 and he told me I should speak my mind on the forum but carefully / thoughtfully does it. I am probably going to be locked in the virtual "Stocks" for what I am about to write and have Cabbages thrown at me but here goes . . . . . Being a Yorkshire Man you will know I am careful with my money. Like you I do not like to pay for some thing especially when you are used to receiving it for free. The old CGS site is now closed, gone and the new site is accessed via the London Coins site and they are still in process of making live some of the smaller, less used facilities. Yes £99 is a lot of money and I thought long and hard about it before sending my £ 99 to them but this is for a year and breaking that down to £ 8.25p per month it is not an extravagant amount of money when you consider a coffee and a bun from Costa costs over a tenner. I am passionate about my pennies and as I am a variation collection collector the information held on the new site is very useful to me and whilst the site was off I must admit I missed the ability to access the information held within the site. Apart from this variation information on the site, being able to view my coin collection in the various lists like denominations or monarchs is pleasing and helps me plan what my next purchase will be. There is always another coin. My Wife calls me a "Coin Addict". Lets not get onto Wives and coins. One other important point is that as new coins and new variations are discovered they are quick to put these on the site. I like my coins in their "coffins" or slabs for several reasons: Have you ever dropped a coin and been rewarded with an edge knock or worse ?. I have dropped several slabs on the floor with no damage whatsoever. I also appreciate the fact that in the past I have purchased coins which were labelled "UNC" only to find out later that they were A/UNC or lower. At least with the slabbing you have the grade what it says and should this ever be wrong you have their guarantee of a full market refund. A cautionary tale is that whilst a slab does float its floatation buoyancy is dependant upon the coin within. I can tell you that half sovereigns DO float in their slabs where as a full sovereign DOES NOT float. I know this as several of my slabs went into the river Ouse from my boat and the floaters we all half sovereigns. For the REAL coin seekers there are several sovereigns in the River Ouse outside the Kings Arms in York !!! Grading fees are always a topic of conversation. I would like mine done for free but it does cost money for wages, admin and also the slabs, labels and actual grading time. I have previously spoken to two of their graders and they told me its not just have a peek and guess / assess the grade. The year and denomination / monarch is a no brainer - we can all do that. Firstly they have to decide exactly which variation of the denomination for that year it is and also if it is a NEW variation. This can take some time bearing in mind the pressure they are under and the *ollocking they would get if they miss some thing. Then they have to assess the actual grade. They have a benchmark set which I have seen myself and this does help them decide on the grade. Then the coin goes to the second grader who basically does the same job again and the second grader gives their grade. Now they have two numbered grades, probably, hopefully both the same number. The coin and both graders numbers then go to the final grader who makes the final call upon the grade - A consensus of opinion is made is there is a difference of numbered grades. Now the coin has to be fitted in the slab, label attached and the UIN info uploaded - All for £ 15.75p. I believe this £ 15.75p covers all coins valued up to £800. I believe the maximum grading charge is £90 at a rate of 2% so that's up to a coin costing £ 4500. If you can afford a coin for £ 4500 then you can whinge about £ 90 . . . . Also its a business not a Non Profit organisation. How many of us would want to or could afford to work for free ? Coins that are not British cost a flat fee of £ 15.75p so If you collect other than British coins you will not pay more than £ 15.75p - that is my understanding. I believe in slabbing. Slabbing is HUGE in America and what happens over there usually happens in England. To sum up and this is the bottom line: We are coin collectors so we buy / trade coins. Do you want to be able to see ALL your coins in list format with photos ? Do you want to buy a coin that is exactly the grade / variation you want it to be and if not have the confidence that if it is not you are covered by their guarantee ? Do you want in depth information about the coins you have, their values and also their variations ? Do you want to damage your coins when you drop them and you will drop coins ? Finally and very important buying a slabbed coin is so much easier than buying a raw coin as you know exactly what you are going to get before you part with your money. I have now put on my Tin Helmet and Bullet Proof Vest and I await the back lash !

That is a beautiful coin. Exquisite golden toning.

I aspire to have coins as high grade as Dive Master. His rejects would be very welcome improvements to my Crown collection !!!

Hi VickySilver Thank you for your confirmation upon the quantity of varieties. I have only been on this site a week and I was horrified, well just miffed, to find that there were 50+ variations of Edward VII Pennies. I believed there to be under 30 variations. I also collect £5 gold and across all the grading companies the grades and indeed valuations can vary noticeably. I will take a photo of the 91 grade 1902 crown and send to you. It took me 35yrs to find that example. I am always looking for very high grade Edward VII coins and if you hear of any denomination for sale I would appreciate a "Heads Up" as I believe the terminology is these days

Hi CoinKat With the exception of the Standard 1902 crown the rest seem to pass hands for just a little more than the cost of a standard providing the grade is comparable. Thank you for your kind complement. It took me over 35 years to obtain that coin. I have never had major issues with NGC or PCGS. My only tiny critique is that the american grading houses do not define the variations of the british coins but this is understandable as with the exception of a few british coins the vast majority cannot be classed as Anglo-American so the experience and maybe interest is just not there. Same with CGS in England I would not grade a high end american coin at CGS - Horses for Courses !!

Hi. I am looking for information to help me research and search to collect this set. Does anyone out there have information to more variations of this coin or one for sale which is an upgrade or a gap giller for me ? To my knowledge there are 5 Crowns 1902: i/ Esc 361 - Standard Coin ii/ ESC 362 - Matt Proof iii/ Matt Proof surfaces with a bright edge - Edge as found on currency pieces. iv/ Low 2 in date v/ B.P. struck over another B. I have examples of the first, Second and Fifth Crown slabbed by CGS respectively at grades 80, 91 and 70. I am both seeking information if there are any other variations, looking for upgrades to these grades and also actively seeking to purchase these.

Hi. I am looking for information to help my search to collect this set. To my knowledge there are 4 Double Sovereigns 1902: i/ Spink 3967 - Standard Coin ii/ Spink 3968 - Matt Proof iii/ Matt Proof Narrow 5.9mm date width. Pointed base "2" iv/ Matt Proof wider 6.25mm date width. Rounded base "2" I have examples of the first three slabbed by CGS respectively at grades 45, 85, 85 and I am both seeking information if there are any other variations, looking for upgrades to these grades and also actively seeking to purchase a Matt Proof wider 6.25mm date width. Rounded base "2" to add to my collection.