copper123

I think this was done years ago and the BNTA was formed Unfortunately enough, you don't have to be a member to sell a few coins on ebay or be a dealer of any repute

lots of trade tokens came from guilford - more than oxford anyway guilford i think is more likely

not to far from home then - there was a lot of trade between oxford and london

End of place name looks like ord .... Is it oxford?

Looks fishy as a haddock to me

why not just slab it as it is and some american might pay a fortune for it ! PS looks like chemical or heat damage to me

Funny thing is they even got the clipped thing wrong It is not clipped and in that state (if genuine ) would be a lovely example. If only worth £60- £100 , as has been already stated

Just shows really , most slabbed coins are not to be trusted - there are are a few names to trust , but american's and not me know who they are

I must admit to scratching my head and just wondering how cc coins have the cheak to grade that 1732 as fine , yes it is a scarcer george II date but Fine? LOL I must say the 1744 farthing at £30 (1744) make much more appeal IMHO , a really bitch of a date to find and the coin is attractive with no problems

NVF on that obverse is not very accurate I would say , i have no probs with the reverse. a really lovely coin at a good price

Thanks for the many posts and opinions you all have given . I must say as well that the 1851 farthing in GVF also has the destinction of not one edge knock and this is quite unusual for early copper, in fact the edge is superb.

well yes i would like to upgrade quite a lot of my coins to be honest but a lot of the top quality stuff is at prices I am not really prepared to pay , for instance i have a lovely 1851 farthing in GVF nice tone and attractive ,cost me £14 if I wanted an ef with lustre I am sure it would cost around £80 or more, big jump . Am i just mean then ??? Probably

Do you think eye appeal comes with age and experience then ? After all the older you get the more coins you see and maybe the more fussy you become.

In the absence of getting upgrades on coins in my collection , I have now started buying similar grade coins to the ones i have now but with a better tone (colour) , I really love the light coloured chocolate tone on early bronze and copper. Early Victorian bronze is harder to find with a good tone than the copper Anyone think this is a waste of time , or is eye appeal not valued in this country (Unlike the states). IMHO a lovely toned copper George IV penny for example is a real thing of beauty and to be admired a black toned one does very little for me , but I might consider it as a space filler. I sell the spares on ebay - this sort of upgrade usually cost me 20% of the coins value , so it really is not that expensive.

In the absence of getting upgrades on coins in my collection , I have now started buying similar grade coins to the ones i have now but with a better tone (colour) , I really love the light coloured chocolate tone on early bronze and copper. Early Victorian bronze is harder to find with a good tone than the copper Anyone think this is a waste of time , or is eye appeal not valued in this country (Unlike the states). IMHO a lovely toned copper George IV penny for example is a real thing of beauty and to be admired a black toned one does very little for me , but I might consider it as a space filler. I sell the spares on ebay - this sort of upgrade usually cost me 20% of the coins value , so it really is not that expensive.

everyone loves a good farting

One of my loves is actually "Numismatic profesionals" who don't know jack shit (to carry on the swearing in this thread) how else am I going to fill those spaces in my collection with the rare varieties at a reasonable cost?

Near vf reverse a bit better

Ahhh , steven and the anarchy - lot more difficult that one. personally i would just try and get a nice steven penny - very hard at the best of times

personaly i would count mary and philip and mary as seperate issues as indeed they are. stick to the groats and get a nice one of each - they are also a good investment as they are a lot rarer than say henry VIII half groats / groats

Vf at the best IMHO

The refund of cash was only £2.500 or so but lloyds had to pay me 8% interest PA and this more than doubled the value of the claim Where do you get 8% interest on your cash these days? never never land Or zimbabwe

Lovely coin - but i must admit i cannot see a trace of lustre. However i have had coins of my own with lustre traces 10% to 25% and it has not shown up on a scaned picture, for some funny reason. I must say the deep chocolate tone is very attractive anyway

Just about to get a PPI refund £5,850 Any surgestions what to do with it!

And coins from slabs as well!!!!!