copper123

"puppet" government - kind of reminds you about the lib dems Or should that be muppet

Oh by the way the american's love these and they can sometimes go for silly prices on ebay

IMHO almost certainly a fake - it was almost certainly surposed to be less heavy than it actually is, but looks very much like a fake as well look at the crude brittania

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Sorry there i mean the part of colin cookes site dedicated to sold collections. Colin's own collection and the nicholson collection of halfpennies are the best reference for us coin collectors, but the other collections are also superb reference works as well.

Colin's site has the POTENTIAL to be totally fantastic but at the moment it's going very slow , pity he cannot find a load of spare time , and i surpose a little spare cash would help a lot as well.

What are the 1863 varieties? I must check mine out. Dot under lighthouse Do you have any pictures? There was one in the colin cooke collection 2006- It is still on the website even 6 years after colins death - A fantastic tribute to him and probably there for good - even more useful than colin's site (sorry colin) Sorry it's also on colins site as well but the coin ain't as nice It's not very clear in the pics on both sites but when you get a dot under lighthouse coin in the hand it's very obvious . (I have seen at least 3)

What are the 1863 varieties? I must check mine out. Dot under lighthouse Do you have any pictures? There was one in the colin cooke collection 2006- It is still on the website even 6 years after colins death - A fantastic tribute to him and probably there for good - even more useful than colin's site (sorry colin)

What are the 1863 varieties? I must check mine out. Dot under lighthouse

This coin is for the seriously rich unfortunately

Point out the pitfalls and suddenly silence reigns!

You could send it by special delivery to all the owners so they could enjoy it in their collections for a week or so - it would end up very expensive though and the person drawn to receive it last would always wondering if it will go missing somewhere along the way .

Funny enough and thinking about it the three rarest bronze farthings 1863 ,1875 and 1876 H have quite a few varieties between them . Some only discovered recently. Maybe someone or something just wants it to be really hard to get a full set !

Funny enough the coin pictured on your website ,colin as high 6 is in almost identical condition to mine . I grade as fine or so

I see on the freeman rarity scale that only one in a hundred or so 1876 H farthings are the large 6 variety possibly even less this being the case I think it is seriously underrated. 1876 H farthings are quite scarce (esp in VF and above)and they remain with 1863 and 1875 as the key dates in the bronze series We all know freemans rarity scale is often wrong, but not usually by much and as it is just an intelligent guess really. How many have you seen please colin? I am pretty sure it will not have been many.

I must say as well idiot buyers don't just bother with ebay they also attend auctions as well - when a coin in a major l London auction house goes for a fantastic price (due to two buyers wanting the same coin ,just like on ebay) , these forums are abuzz with Wow did you see that auction result, etc. Common sense is not (often) a factor when two dedicated buyer want something

Strangely enough colin cooke never had an example in his collection . I am sure it would have done the variety good if he had

It is large high 6 ,and like you say I am sure the guides are out on their prices on this one - in fact the best price guide of all is complated listings on ebay. Maybe ebay should employ a few profesional graders and produce a guide. i looked at compleated listings under 1876 farthing and as usual no large 6 coins are there :(

I think they underate the rarity of the coin then as ordinary 1876 H farthings are easy worth these prices

I recently picked up a 1876 H farthing in about Fine or better for about £7 at a local collectors fair , my question is anyone know the current value of this coin please ? They don't really seem to come up for sale very often and hopefully I will be able to upgrade it at sometime , but it will do in the meanwhile. PS I know I got it at a great price as 1876 H is an underated date and this is the first large 6 i have ever seen

Nice to find a younger collector who understands that a bit of churn on his collection can pay dividends. Here's to more great buying and selling

A crown collection is a wonderful thing to have. Not one for the person who has no patience or is without deep pockets

In a lot of ways ebay laughs on this forum really sums up the general public's lack of knowledge about numismatics - well we all go on it and have a laugh at the polished buttons described as near mint , and the metal detector finds of blank corroded pennies . Things ain't gonna change overnight guys and in the end the only person in this numismatic jungle who is really to blame for buying rubbish is the buyer , no matter how wise or foolish this person might be. In the end just make sure it ain't you that's buying the unsellable rubbish

Even being a "known" dealer does not guarantee that a coin is genuine many northumberland shilling fakes have appeared in dealers trays and major London auction houses as well. To be fair any BNTA member would at least give you your cash back with no quibble if you had any doubts after buying from them

Is it a 1918/1919 threepence? If so there have been many arguements over this but the general consencus is it is not an overdate.