Paulus

My guess was MS62 and given that Heritage have an auction estimate of $1250-$1750, it is well off my radar too. That's crazy, is there not significant wear to the hair or is that me?

Sure is!

The ones that are actually described as "replicates" (sic) are pretty obvious fakes, to be honest. The most worrying item there is the florin. Good work Seuk! Yes the florin seems the least unconvincing, here it is for anyone who wants to avoid visiting this horrible site and having nightmares! Obverse digs in the same place as Dinsdale's!

Me too, Sword! AbsaBloodyLutely!

Most experienced collectors would spot the tell tale signs of a coin that has been dipped, as the "lustre" appears flat, and does not radiate from the surface in the same way that natural lustre does. Interesting article here Many thanks for the article 1949. I don't think I am experienced enough at the moment to distinguish between the different types of lustre but I prefer toned silver coins in any case. Nice photos by the way, Azda. Last year, I brought a matt proof 1902 crown with a really nice golden tone. (The coin is not quite FDC because of a tiny contact mark on the reverse which was almost invisible in the original auction photo. The tiny bits of grey in the photo is due to reflection of some kind and is not seen on the acutal coin in hand). If nice toning like this can potentially lower a coin's grade from FDC, then so be it in my view. FDC or not FDC, I still prefer toned silver coins. There are lots of sweeping faint lines on your photo of the coin Sword, what do you put those down to?

Okay I will, thanks Dave, Stuart, Peter! I have laid out the princely sum of just under a tenner so far, so I don't feel I should have done it earlier!! I have about 10 books so far but none about hammered specifically ...

I may, can't justify the outlay just yet! Strange 'J' in 'Jaco', or 'I' for 'J'?

The 12 days of Christmas it is then! 'On the first day of Christmas, my true love sent to me, a partridge and a Lennox E30c Very very nice Stuart! Where did you get that one from?

I saw that over there. I read about spittal and tinfoil on hammered.(Not to rub) What's a clad coin? Is it something an archaeologist pulls out of the wall of a 20thC house? Very good question, I hope I don't have one!

I prefer to see it that way. Although, I'll run with any method as long as it produces an interesting date. Besides which it's more unusual to get date "anomalies" (for want of a better word), which involves the entire year, rather than just the last two digits of it. 12.12.12 is unique, and doesn't work with 2012 But yes, yours is another palindrome. There are also some interesting hours, minutes and seconds palindromes that occur every day!! In a mischievous mood, sorry!

http://www.coincommunity.com/collecting-tips-tricks/clad-silver-tissue-test.asp

I've also just ordered a book and a new digital caliper. Does anyone have a copy of Challis 'Tudor Coinage' ? And well done for posting at 12:12, even if it was on the 13th!

What's going on, Paulus, no competition please! Lion RAMPANT Lennox type 4 S2680 [c] I had this one in my watch list as I thought it might be counterfeit...I never had time to sort it out, so it went by! Tim Everson in his latest adenda to his 2007 book has a newly discovered example listed of a Lennox 4 'lion rampant' counterfeit [EXR] Will get the PC out later and have a look! Brilliant, thanks Stuart! I see it in my Spink copy now ... be nice to know if it is counterfeit, half hope that it is! It just caught my eye, glad you weren't bidding too! I like to have a smattering of other examples to go with my milled silver! Alas, it's certainly not a 'known' counterfeit! The counterfeit had missing colon stop after HIB (no space for it apparently)! So, Lennox Type 4 (1622/3-1625) obverse 2, reverse 2 - Everson 48b, BMC (Peck) 103. Importantly, it should have a die axis of 180 degrees. Welcome to the world of hammered copper! A very common type by the looks of it, I'll confirm the die axis when it arrives ... thanks again! Actually, I've just noticed from the images that it IS 180 degrees! Bet you never thought you'd get excited about a coin being a possible counterfeit? For ease of use, and as a great catalogue all round, I can heartily recommend Everson's book...especially if you are going to start scouring the 'bay for the rarities! Not sure if any of the dealers on here have one but, if not, you can get a copy here if you're interested? http://www.galata.co.uk/store.asp?storeAction=showDetail&stockID=1136&stockMasterCategoriesID=8 You mean a genuine one has a die axis of 0 degrees? I thought you meant the opposite, sorry!

What's going on, Paulus, no competition please! Lion RAMPANT Lennox type 4 S2680 [c] I had this one in my watch list as I thought it might be counterfeit...I never had time to sort it out, so it went by! Tim Everson in his latest adenda to his 2007 book has a newly discovered example listed of a Lennox 4 'lion rampant' counterfeit [EXR] Will get the PC out later and have a look! Brilliant, thanks Stuart! I see it in my Spink copy now ... be nice to know if it is counterfeit, half hope that it is! It just caught my eye, glad you weren't bidding too! I like to have a smattering of other examples to go with my milled silver! Alas, it's certainly not a 'known' counterfeit! The counterfeit had missing colon stop after HIB (no space for it apparently)! So, Lennox Type 4 (1622/3-1625) obverse 2, reverse 2 - Everson 48b, BMC (Peck) 103. Importantly, it should have a die axis of 180 degrees. Welcome to the world of hammered copper! A very common type by the looks of it, I'll confirm the die axis when it arrives ... thanks again!

What's going on, Paulus, no competition please! Lion RAMPANT Lennox type 4 S2680 [c] I had this one in my watch list as I thought it might be counterfeit...I never had time to sort it out, so it went by! Tim Everson in his latest adenda to his 2007 book has a newly discovered example listed of a Lennox 4 'lion rampant' counterfeit [EXR] Will get the PC out later and have a look! Brilliant, thanks Stuart! I see it in my Spink copy now ... be nice to know if it is counterfeit, half hope that it is! It just caught my eye, glad you weren't bidding too! I like to have a smattering of other examples to go with my milled silver!

http://www.londoncoins.co.uk/img.php?a=129&l=1759&f=r&s=l here's the small garter star! Thanks Stuart!

Mint Mark:

I just bought the wee fella ... can anyone tell me what Spink number / mint mark it is? My guess is 2679 Lion passant??? Thanks for any help!

After a pic of this, none of my reference books seem to have one, photo quality not all that important, just need to know what I am looking for ... anyone help?

Good luck Saxon, please let us know what you get for it! I'm guessing £80-£100, good luck Saxon and, yes, let us know, or link us the sale? I am guessing slightly more, this is the link I think! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200860215136?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2648

Good luck Saxon, please let us know what you get for it!

It might make £100-£150 on eBay with that nice portrait? What were your other finds?

1887 shilling was under £10. 1674 = £50? although i like the coin, thats a sweet price. The Edward I would be a very cool plectrum. Brian May uses a sixpence. I think it's in quite a collectable condition. it's slighty worn but all is there and nothing is missing To do that would be like cleaning a 1919kn penny, which was one of my worst mistakes. i never intended, just got put into the wrong pile. You keep them in piles?!! Yikes!!!!

Maybe it's a trick the brain plays, like on this Quite Interesting clip?

lol what's a 'Plattipus shiller'? Ask Dave - it's his favourite subject, and favourite person.. I sometimes despair at the work you put into people like Platt and this numpty *surrey coins* only for people to continually buy from them. I just hope no one here has done or else i'm coming to your door with a pair of nutcrackers, there will be tears The other surprising Thing is that surrey has had only 2, Negs in 12 months. Obviously some very uneducated people out there. Oh BTW Peter, he has 2 of those AUNC 1874s, http://www.ebay.co.u...=item3a7c0d3559 Anither high grade http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1878-Half-Crown-High-grade-Rare-/271112021827?pt=UK_Coins_BritishMilled_RL&hash=item3f1f892743 and if you look through the rest, apparently all of George V silver is rare dates Just had a quick squiz, they really are laughable aren't they! This one is 'choice uncirculated' apparently!! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1893-Three-pence-Choice-uncirculated-Very-Rare-R2-in-ESC-/271109865861?pt=UK_Coins_BritishMilled_RL&hash=item3f1f684185