Hussulo

Thats definitely the same coin. Good detective work!

Great finds Colin. I'd love to find a hammered.

I'd still love to know how it could happen. The only possibility is having two reverse dies in place, but how that could be done on a one-off basis seems far-fetched? I think the misleading part is that these are often referred to as errors, when in fact there is no way they could have been struck in error. Someone at the mint has decided for whatever reason to insert two obverse or reverse dies. I guess they should be classed as trial pieces.

Always amazes me that such ancient quality coins can be acquired at affordable prices, those are great Hus! Good Romans are plentiful. Not surprising when you consider the size and sophistication of that economy and culture. But yes, it's good that so many are available at such reasonable prices. Ironically, when you look at the late Republic and early Empire, the silver coins are much more affordable than the bronzes. That's true, especially in better condition. I guess a lot of bronzes have been damaged after being in the ground for so long. Some of the silver became quite debased as well.

From the images it looks legit. A little more worn then others I've seen but still a very nice find.

Heres one for sale by Northeast numismatics: http://www.northeastcoin.com/popupcontainer.jsp?include=/popup/viewimage.jsp&itemkey=zi29_127177608

Wow what a box, did you buy it? I would be interested to see what else was in it. Are you planning on selling any?

Legitimate Mules do exist and I have seen a couple slabbed by NGC before. I also used to own a Euro cent that was struck by 2 reverse dies and a Thai Baht struck by two obverse dies. So genuine ones are struck by mints for whatever reason, possibly testing.. 99% of the coins you see have been man made and are post mint damaged, some are refered to as Magicians coins and used for tricks. in you image, on the image to the right I can see a line at the bottom below the beading. I think that is the side that has been machined out and added. If you are confident it is genuine, you could send it to CGS Uk and get their opinion, or send it to Robert Matthews http://www.coinauthentication.co.uk/ for authentication. Both will cost you a smal fee.

and thought I would share. JULIA MAMAEA. 231-235. AR Denarius JULIA MAMAEA, mother of Severus Alexander. AR Denarius (2.62 gm). IVLIA MAMAEA AVG, diademed and draped bust right / IVNO CONS-ERVATRIX, Juno standing half-left, holding patera and sceptre; peac ock standing left below. RIC IV 343 (Alexander); BMCRE 43 (Alexander); RSC 35. and TRAJAN DECIUS. AD 249-251 AR,Antoninianvs TRAJAN DECIUS. AD 249-251 AR Antoninianvs Obv. IMP. C.M.Q. TRAINVS DECVS AVG, rad, dp & cuir hd r. Rev. ABVNDANTIA AVG. Abundantia stg r, emptying cornucopia. Quite silver looking for their age, but they are bursting with lustre. Very hard to photograph.

Seller also listed this 1818 half-crown as 1818 IN aUNC it made £63 plus postage: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&item=251118716484&nma=true&rt=nc&si=cShqpmRP5%252FtTjSrbgaKoYnJPnRw%253D&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc It was listed by Noble as Cleaned, extremely fine. and sold for AU $340: http://www.noble.com.au/auctions/lot/?id=292421

Yes I noticed some of the coins that seller had for sale. They have all been sold recently in Noble auctions Australia. It looks like the seller also used Noble's pictures: Sellers listing: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GEORGE-III-proof-silver-shilling-1787-plain-edge-IN-SPINK-EXTREMELY-RARE-/251118704184?pt=UK_Coins_BritishMilled_RL&hash=item3a77d75638 Noble sale: http://www.noble.com.au/auctions/lot/?id=292405

Acetone, not great with plastic. Also if you are ever dipping a coin in acetone, use a glass container. NGC will simply re-holder your coin for a small fee, they won't re-grade it unless you ask for that but that costs more.

And now without further ado, the winner randomly drawn out of a hat by my wife is: Accumulator Congratulations! and thanks to everyone that took part. I'll contact the winner by private message (on this forum) tomorrow night to get your postage details. So I can post your coin out to you.

Hi Patrick, I hope they turn up but I would also like to offer you some free coins to get you kick started again. Send me a message with your address and I'll post some coins out to you. Regards, Hus

Last few days left so if you haven't got your name in, make a post in this thread to enter

Just incase there are newbie collectors reading, I was being sarcastic. Don't bid on it at that price because it has obviously been cleaned.

What do you mean, it must be unc, look at the colour of it. Fresh as the day it was made

Ah that's good Geordie you had me kind of worried for a bit there I hope you enjoyed your trip. I'm away from home just now but we have Internet access so I'm stil "around".

I haven't seen him on any of the boards for a while, I hope he's okay?

No just one per person regardless of number of posts. I don't want to derail the thread so I posted a new topic about counterfiet coins here: http://www.predecimal.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=6897 If they decide there is money to be made in hammered's I don't think it would be long before they cut some dies and hand hammer a few coins out.

If anyone hasn't read or seen this before it makes an interesting but scary read: http://coins.about.com/od/worldcoins/ig/Chinese-Counterfeiting-Ring/ Buyer beware!

Thats neat. I have seen these before but don't know the value of them. Have you tried to research it yet?

That's pretty cool thanks for sharing. If I was being critical the horses head looks a bit small, where as its neck looks a bit large and I agree that St George looks a bit small in preportion as well but its nice to see a different design of this type.

Sorry I'm all out of those. I've got the lads in China working on a new batch round the clock but I don't think they'll be ready in time.

To celebrate the re-launch of CoinsGBforum.com we would like to have a giveaway on this forum. Prize: India 1923 1/24 Anna (Bombay mint, Unc) picked from a small group I acquired. Like the one pictured here: If you would like a chance to win, post a reply in this thread. Only one entry allowed per person allowed and the winner will be randomly drawn (My wife will pick a names out of a hat). I will post the winner their coin anywhere in the World at my expense. For a chance to win more coins check out our newly re-launched forum. The winner will be chosen on Mon 16th July and announced here. All entries must be in before 10pm GMT on Sun 15th July. Any entries made after this time and date wont be counted. Good luck!