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The estimate for the 1860/59 was $6,000 to $7,500, without commission. I went over the high estimate ($7,750), but still lost! The commission is +17.5%.

The 1860/59 Penny went for $9,400, including dealer commission ($8,000 without!). I was the underbidder!

I haven't looked at the coins, but there is a 1862 with the sig., and I am guessing they are trying to say "no sig" means it is not the F-38. As for the "details" grading...that always refers to a coin with a defect. Thus the grading for surface lines. The details grading is usually done by NCS...not NGC, though they are both the same Company. You probably already know all this though! LOL!

Rob, Vicky, I took a look at the "Spink" 1860/59, and while the pic is not as good, the Heritage coin does look superior to the Spink example...though both are sharp examples! I may bid on the Heritage coin...price will determine how high, however! Ha,Ha!

Greg, Being from the USA, I was constantly mis-grading the coins of Great Britain. I really enjoy having the "Standard Guide to Grading English Coins". It is a great reference.

At our age. my Wife and I stay up, at home, and watch the ball drop in Times Square in New York, at midnight. Have a little white wine, and shrimp, and have a private evening. Here in the U.S. New Year's Eve is called "Amateur Hour" due to all the drunks on the streets. I have kinda out grown that (finally! Ha,Ha)

Rob, Is there anywhere that you can see the Colin Adams example? Please advise if there is. Thanks,

Has anyone noticed lot 20954? It is a uncirculated 1860/59 Penny. Should go for quite a sum!

David, Azda, Well, we only got 10" of snow total, so it wasn't as bad as it was supposed to be. The 10" of snow, however, was more than we got all last winter! Ha,Ha. Last winter was more like Autumn than Winter though! I'm getting ready to go to the New York International Numismatic Convention in January. It is the best coin Bourse in America for World Coins. Many dealers from Great Britain, and Australia are there. I'm really looking forward to it. Maybe I can find a delayed Christmas Present there! LOL!

I wish Santa had left me a coin for Christmas...instead he left me a white-out Blizzard! I can't even see the house across the street, the snow is blowing so hard. We have 8" of snow on the ground now, with 5" to 7" more due in the next 5 hours. Needless to say, I am staying inside today! Good time to go over some coins! LOL!

1949, Merry Christmas, and Happy New Year, to you, and also everyone on the Forum. I think 2013 is going to be a good year! All the Best, Bob

Debbie, Any way you pronounce it or spell it, is ok! LOL! It's the thought that counts!

Thanks to everyone for the Birthday Wishes. I really had a nice Birthday this year. Some old friends of mine even had a surprise Birthday Party for me. That is a real treat at 77 year old!Ha,Ha. The Birthday Wishes were appreciated. Bob C. (Robert) LOL!

dos = disk operating system...LOL!

I think I's have to agree with Bernie, about the possibility of two different Obverse dies, since the "R" in your coin is doubled in one direction, and the "R" in mine is doubled the opposite direction.

David, Here is the Obverse, and the Doubled "A" in Victoria, on my coin. I think your coin has the same doubling, but the bottom of the right leg of the "A" is worn, and just looks extended as a result.

Peter, I looked at CGS, and although they have three (3) graded at MS85, they have not identified any as the Satin 11, 1860 N over Z. Am I missing something?

Accumulator, I talked to Neil Paisley also, and he said he bought the collection as a block, and the collection, was then sold on his website...so you are right with your assessment. Michael Gouby also said this was the best example of this variety known...to date at least! LOL! The best example listed in Michael's book is EF/AU.

Every N over Z I have seen illustrated, including my own, has that die crack by the 1 of the date - certainly diagnostic! ......... unless anyone has one without? David David, Does your example have the double stamped "A" in Victoria? Just wondered.

Thanks 1949, I appreciate your input. I have asked Neil Paisley and Lee Brownson for some addition on the Edinburgh Sale. I am awaiting their reply. I am very pleased with the coin, and the way they handled the transaction.

Coinery, you are right. it is a N over sideways N, not a N over Z, as stated. Although it is also referred to as a N over Z, by some. Most of the readers have noticed the retooled O, and the die crack on the reverse of the coin, but an addition feature of the coin (and all of this Variety) is the double struck A on the Obverse. I didn't make a pic of the Obverse "A", but it is visably double struck. Does anyone have any information on the edinburgh sale? ie...date of the sale...who held the sale ,etc?

For all who may not have seen a 1860 N over Z, here is one I received in today's mail. I couldn't get the Obverse in the email, due to size restrictions.

Thanks Peter. This is the best 1871 Half Penny, I have ever owned!

1949...I am going to keep it slabbed for the time being, although I don't like slabs for the most part.

I just received a new 1871 Half Penny...not real good pic's as they are taken through a slab. Coin is much better than the pic's show. PCGS has it slabbed as AU55 (Choice AU on the Shelton scale).