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Peter, I looked at CGS, and although they have three (3) graded at MS85, they have not identified any as the Satin 11, 1860 N over Z. Am I missing something?

Accumulator, I talked to Neil Paisley also, and he said he bought the collection as a block, and the collection, was then sold on his website...so you are right with your assessment. Michael Gouby also said this was the best example of this variety known...to date at least! LOL! The best example listed in Michael's book is EF/AU.

Every N over Z I have seen illustrated, including my own, has that die crack by the 1 of the date - certainly diagnostic! ......... unless anyone has one without? David David, Does your example have the double stamped "A" in Victoria? Just wondered.

Thanks 1949, I appreciate your input. I have asked Neil Paisley and Lee Brownson for some addition on the Edinburgh Sale. I am awaiting their reply. I am very pleased with the coin, and the way they handled the transaction.

Coinery, you are right. it is a N over sideways N, not a N over Z, as stated. Although it is also referred to as a N over Z, by some. Most of the readers have noticed the retooled O, and the die crack on the reverse of the coin, but an addition feature of the coin (and all of this Variety) is the double struck A on the Obverse. I didn't make a pic of the Obverse "A", but it is visably double struck. Does anyone have any information on the edinburgh sale? ie...date of the sale...who held the sale ,etc?

For all who may not have seen a 1860 N over Z, here is one I received in today's mail. I couldn't get the Obverse in the email, due to size restrictions.

Thanks Peter. This is the best 1871 Half Penny, I have ever owned!

1949...I am going to keep it slabbed for the time being, although I don't like slabs for the most part.

I just received a new 1871 Half Penny...not real good pic's as they are taken through a slab. Coin is much better than the pic's show. PCGS has it slabbed as AU55 (Choice AU on the Shelton scale).

It is not a clear pic, but it looks like a 1, with another 1 to the right of it. There are some of those 1 next to 1's in the 1861 Pennies.

Red, Allen's website is www.crs-stockton.com. He is a second generation coin restorer...his father started the business. He advertises in the "Numismatist"...the magazine of the American Numismatic Association(ANA).

The repair was done by a guy in the States called Allen Stockton. It cost $100 which included the return shipping. The time scale was very long due to unforeseen circumstances. It was originally estimated to be 2-3 months but took 18 in the end. Gary, I've used Allen to repair a number of coins, and you are right, he does a good job. The only thing I don't like is that he likes to clean the coins he repairs, which sometimes is not requested. Usually his cleaning leaves fine burnishing lines in the field. Not to much of a problem, unless it is a VF or better coin. I never give him a coin better than GF for repair, as a result. btw...if you email him every month, and request a update, he will speed up the repair. It usually only takes 6 months that way! LOL! Allen is a really nice guy. He is located in Kentucky.

Huss, You are right, about a "Details" coin graded by NGC. Anything that does not qualify for regular slabbed grading, will be given a details grading. A details graded coin is only guaranteed to be authentic, and the grade that is given, is what the coin would "probably" grade without what ever defect is has...ie...Improper cleaning, scratches, etc. About the only value to "Details" grading, is to authenticate the coin as original. This grading is usually used for high value coins that have a defect of some kind.

John, I think Michael Gouby has the "tail" (below the hair) you are referring to, shown with multiple types on his website. There are quite a few different variations.

Happy Birthday Patrick, Many Happy Returns of the Day!

David, Its been a great show from Great Britain. We have watched it here in Indianapolis, every evening (it is not shown live, only recorded and shown in the evening). I especially like the opening with the Queen and 007!

Rob, You are right...the guy who goes by "Centsles" on ebay is slabbing these coins as NNC. He always over grades by at least one full grade or more. I would never buy a coin from him!

Hi, Being in the USA, the best shows to obtain British Milled Coins are either the Chicago International Coin Fair (held in the Spring), or the New York International Coin Fair, held at the Waldorf Astoria, in January. The NY show has many of the important coin dealers from Great Britain. (Baldwins, Spink, Rassmussen, etc.) I am also in the USA (Indianapolis)

Thanks Peter. I appreciate every new day! LOL!

John, Who is this hardhat? He doesn't respect Michael Freeman?...does he respect the American Numismatic Association? After the publishing of Michael's Variety Book, he was asked to speak before the largest Numismatic group in The USA (ANA), about his valuable work on British Bronze coinage! As for there being no variety collectors in the USA...he is completely upside down on that one! There is a very large collector base her in the USA for British Coins (and varieties), as about 50% of our ancesters migrated to the USA from the British Isles!

Happy Birthday Geordie, Many Happy Returns of the Day! Sorry to be late with the wishes!....I think you and I are the senior members on the Forum! LOL!

She's an excellent singer and the band is very tight Agreed!

I like it...great job! I think she is implying that Michael should "Get a Life!" LOL!

Vicky, I think the guy's ebay screenname gives him away..."GreatToning".....I don't usually like toned coins, but this one is attractive, but like Azda said...for how long!

Peter, The trip to the "FUN"Convention in Florida, was pretty good,I found a few pieces I liked. The best show of the Spring was the Chicago International Coin Fair (CICF), as it is directed to World Coin Collectors. I got the following 1837 Penny there. It is really hard to find a 1837 with this much hair on the Monarch. Sorry about the picture, I'm still working through a new jpeg editing program, and I don't have it down yet! LOL! The coin has a small stain on the obverse, but still a toughie in this condition!