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That sale is held at the New York International Coin Fair (NYICF), in New York City. I usually go to that one, but it is usually so cold there, I decided to go to the Florida Coin Expo instead this year. They are held at the same time. The Florida Expo is a lot bigger (1000 tables) than the NYICF, but the New York show is more directed to World Coins. I am going to like the 75 degree weather in Florida a lot better though! Ha,Ha!

The 50 degrees is the good bit. The rest is howling gales and sheets of rain. You wouldn't like it Bob, you really wouldn't. I heard you were having some issues also in the UK. Today here in Indiana there is 14" of snow on the ground, and 15 delow zero temperature at noon! The Mayor has shut down all traffic, except emergencys, because of the high winds, blowing snow, and wind chill factor of -50 degrees. We received about a year's snow in the last 24 hours. I am going to Florida tomorrow...75 degrees, and sunny! Ha,Ha!

So far Indianapolis has received 12 inches of global warming (snow), and it is still coming down in droves! I've cleaned my, and my neighbors driveways off twice so far (6" of snow each time) today (100' each)! Tonight is is going to be 16 below zero here, and the "High" tomorrow ia set for 12 below zero! I'll be glad when this global warming is over! Ha,Ha. BTW... the football game in Green Bay today is going to be played in -10 degree temperatures.....outside! I just checked the weather in London...it is 50 degrees...I should have stayed in the UK longer!

Nice coin VS! The coloring of the coin really looks original to the early Bronze Pennies. Nice strike also!

I wonder what the 1999 Krause lists a 1903 halfcrown at? I got one in VF from a New York dealer for £26 Peck, My 2009 Krause (36th edition) lists the 1903 HC at $275 (167 pounds) in VF. While this is a 10 year newer reference (than the 1999), it still looks like you stole it, at 26 pounds! LOL! I have a 1903 in GF that I paid $277 for....

I'm thinking the same as you, Garrett! I'm definitely thinking cleaned, though! The tone of all his bronze coins is unnatural and too consistent, which suggests dipping. I may be wrong though. I'll bet you're not. I think he adjusts the color balance on his camera also...his coins all have the same tone!

Happy New Year from the Colonies!.....

Beautiful coin Sword. It doesn't look dipped to me. Nice clear fields!

That is a nice one Steve. Did you buy it as a 93/2 or as a regular 1893? Better coins like your example show a lot more detail in the overdate. Good find!

Whenever anyone advises Michael they have a additional copy of a item he has listed, he updates the count on the Master Copy Book that he keeps. The number he shows in his book is only the ones he has verified at the time of printing. When I visited him in September, I showed him a couple of coins that he updated in his book, at that time.

There is a definate (although faint) change in the upper arc of the 3, but the pic does not show it very well. This overdate is one that you really "want" to see, rather than it being one that stands out with the naked eye.

Here is a closeup of the 93 over 92.

I noticed that error also! The coin does have a 2nd "1" impression slightly to the left of the 2nd one (1) in the date!

Chris, Not sure what Victorian pic's you want, but I can supply the following coin pic's, or close up's of the varieties, if you need any of them. 1860 over 591860 N over Z1864 Crosslet 41875 Narrow and Wide dates1876H Narrow and wide date1877 Narrow and Wide dates1880, 8 over 81911, Gouby X1922 Dot on trident1922, Reverse of 271946, One' (Dot)Let me know if you want any of them.Regards,Bob C.

I just looked thru 10 1904 Pennies, and didn't find any with the 4 over the tooth! I would assume it is the most difficult to find. Yes Bob, they're unbelievably difficult to find and worth $15,995! Or the narrow date 1877 on your website, of course WOW!!!!!!! I have got to start paying more attention. It looks like David is going to have a additional 1904 for his book's next printing! Does anyone you know actually have one of these?

I just looked thru 10 1904 Pennies, and didn't find any with the 4 over the tooth! I would assume it is the most difficult to find.

Merry Christmas David, and to All on the Forum. I hope everyone get what they want for Christmas.

The fifth coin looks like some of the silver I stored in pvc album pockets for nearly 40 years (not any more, I should add!), with a blue/green deposit caused by 'sweating'. It could just be the photos though. Accum, A quick dip in carbon Tet. will remove the green residue caused by polyvinyl sweating. Wear gloves though, it does not burn, but does absorb in the skin! If you can get hold of any. Wonderful solvent, but a no-no under H&S regs. It's fair to say that it's easier to list what it doesn't do. Carbon Tet was originally used as a parts cleaner here in the Industrial Factories, but is still available as a "coin solvent" here in the U.S., though there are warnings from the EPA about absobtion in the skin. It is risky stuff....

The fifth coin looks like some of the silver I stored in pvc album pockets for nearly 40 years (not any more, I should add!), with a blue/green deposit caused by 'sweating'. It could just be the photos though. Accum, A quick dip in carbon Tet. will remove the green residue caused by polyvinyl sweating. Wear gloves though, it does not burn, but does absorb in the skin!

You're very kind, Danz, though several others on here could put my collection to shame! You are right Danz, Accum's collecion is top drawer. But like Accum's response, there is always someone who can "one up" a collection, it seems. When I was visiting Great Britain this Fall, I stopped by Michael Gouby's shop, and some of the coins he showed me, would really make you dizzy with envy, especially the 1849, and 1863 Open 3 Pennies, both uncirculated! It was quite a treat!

The trouble is, the market for some of the most obscure and trivial varieties is so small that how could you get a realistic value? Especially if one of the collectors has much more money than sense like the person who bought that 1863 'narrow 3' penny. Others - such as the two kinds of 1905 penny, 1937 penny, 1928 halfcrown, and several others - where the two varieties occur in roughly equal quantities, aren't worth listing as each variety would have the same value. It's a minefield. Chris already shows the 1905, 1937, etc with just an asterick (*), explaining that both types generally have equal value. That's a pretty good way of dealing with minor variations on some coins, while still listing thay are differant varieties.

As for the date widths, I think Michael Gouby has a good explaination of what is considered important, and what (currently) is not. I think the market will decide what should, and should not, be placed in a coin reference. "Some collectors have started collecting or recording variations in date widths. I do not consider the great majority of these variations as being of significant importance or rarity above the norm. Some, like the 1889 narrow date, do eventually achieve a rarity status and command a premium over the norm. Only time will tell which of the others do ! I shall list and scan some of the variations that pass through my hands." I think the 1877 Narrow Date has made the cut! Ha,Ha!

I kind of agree with you on many of the micro varieities, but I think the O'NE should be included. It has been in Sprink for a long time, and has a value of 100-1500 pounds!

Nice coin Benny!

I think this auction is being held during the "New York International Coin Fair" at the Waldorf Astoria Hotel in Midtown, New York City. That is the premier show here in the USA for World coins, so you are correct that the bidding will be very active. I have gone to the NYICF the last three years, but am attending the Florida United NUmismatic Expo this year, which is held on the same dates. You always freeze to death in NYC this time of year, so it will be nice to exchange that for 75 degree weather in Florida. Good luck with your bids!