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Yes, retoning would mean it was cleaned at some point and is now starting to retone......I think Paul'bank token is in the same category, merely an assumption Paul, but the toning on yours and Swannys Gothic is quite similar

I'm sure Swanny said it was rejected for cleaning? and came back with the scratch? @SWANNY can confirm the nature of the rejection

Tight line Peter.............Glad you've enjoyed yourself buddy

This bank token has the same mottled toning as Swannys Gothic Crown which CGS condemned as being cleaned, is this a CGS picture?

I see this castle still exists today, in Suffolk

If they use the global shipping programme then be aware of the huge import charges eBay charge on those items, at a guess this would cost another $350 just for the import alone

If we're talking about the halfcrown Chris, that is from another seller which I added some posts back, that seller is called http://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/gb-classic-coins-uk

May not post to United Kingdom - Read item description or contact sellerfor postage options. | See details Item location: Bay Shore, New York, United States Posts to: United States

The rarity scale goes to R20

Looks like something has gone down with Mr P, another eBay name change and feedback has gone private..........Some listings to follow?

Peter is our forum legend ??

He probably is most helpful Chris, but old habits die hard and all that. Don't be overawed by his charm......

Ouch. We're these for the upcoming auction as there is some serious coins in that catalogue.

Maybe a deal to be done with @mhcoins http://www.mhcoins.co.uk/coins/hammeredsilver/edward-vi-1547-1553-mm-tun-shilling/

Numismatic research group is a term used on the forum when you reach a certain amount of posts, as is "nearly part of the furniture" and so on. I noticed that NGC have graded an 1862 in MS65 grade, so they are out there, but it takes time... Here's one if mine to go alongside yours ?

Even though the company formerly known as CGS said it was cleaned, i'm still a fan of this coin, cleaned or not

To highlight my point that the variety is distinct even on worn coins, here is one on eBay from one of the members here on the forum http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1687-6-James-II-silver-Shilling-G-A-in-MAG-NF-but-cleaned-/351673391893?hash=item51e15e1b15:g:R9gAAOSwxp9W4Bvq

My last picture isn't the same coin, i was just highlighting how obvious the G over A is and its not apparent on the koscoins one nor in the Londoncoins sale, so it is fraudulent

It's the ethics of the seller that has to be questioned, not eBay. The coin sold in 2014, so IMO, people buying at this level will know their onions and have probably researched the coin already, hence the reason it's been sat around a while

Never noticed that Matt, obviously just changed the background in photoshop. The image is of a G over A

One of my pet hates are so called "premium eBay seller" who try to rip people off. This one is koscoins claiming that his 1687/6 James II shilling is actually with M over G in MAG. The reverse error is a pretty noticeable error as i've had one of these a few years back, the funny thing is, when he bought it from Londoncoins there was no mention of the REV legend error although they have sold a couple and know of the error. So just another eBay seller trying to make a few more bucks instead of just selling the coin as he bought it.......The next post is the actual coin that's for sale on eBay and the Londoncoins sale coin......

VF isn't so pricey, it's finding a VF, most are around GF it's when it goes above that.......The linked coin sold for £700 in 2013 graded as GVF http://www.londoncoins.co.uk/img.php?a=143&l=1517&f=o&s=l

The florin is Proof Stuntman.....

Ok, boredom over