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Yeah, and £25 seems to cheap for this error. CCGB gives the price as £450 but it doesn't say when or where it went for that. Why don't you email the forum owner as he's also the author of CCGB Yeah, but the post before yours says it was in CCGB "pre-Perkins'. Original post states its in CCGB 2011, so as i said, email the forum owner. What's the point? It was in CCGB pre-Perkins. There's every chance he doesn't know. Hmmmm my 2010 CCGB book was penned by Chris, which then gives the kikelyhood that 2011 was also done by C.H.Perkins because we know that 2013 was also penned by Chris. Please read properly Peck

And welcome from me Bill. Highlighted is where the problems lie with CGS, along with the OP.......Customer service seems pretty shite. Then there was Stuart (Coinery) who mentioned his coin was already graded and had to wait ANOTHER 3 months to get his coin back which i personally find unacceptable. If the coin is graded/entombed and in the computer, then why does he have to wait on BULK coins before posting, he's paid his Tenner for the return, so why have it lying around? These little bits are in my opinion what put people off CGS, hopefully you can report back with the points we're raising and it can only help to run a better service other than the negativity that some people have mention when phoning about their coins. I'm personally not a slab fan, however i will agree as Peck and Accumulator have, it's the best for UK coins and i've recently sent one if for grading and slabbing (this is for ebay though and not my own collection)

Perfekt Englisch

Aye, if you have problems writing i'll gladly help the uneducated anyway i can.

Its probably the reason why they take so long Stuart. A few moans on their forum might help them take their finger from out of their arse. Perhaps divemaster could mention the poor customer relations as he advocates CGS and i think a Moderator on their forum

http://coinsweekly.com/index.php?pid=4&id=1715

Celtic starters, and how to spot a fake http://coinsweekly.com/index.php?pid=4&id=1825

And exactly why there are people defending these as original toning. If there were a multitude of these sitting in sacks but in rolls and only the nearest to the sack were toned/tarnished, there seems a hell of a lot of coins. 1 or 2 coins per roll would tarnish, top and bottom coin, but it seems that nearly 1 in 2 are rainbow toned

Yeah, and £25 seems to cheap for this error. CCGB gives the price as £450 but it doesn't say when or where it went for that. Why don't you email the forum owner as he's also the author of CCGB Yeah, but the post before yours says it was in CCGB "pre-Perkins'. Original post states its in CCGB 2011, so as i said, email the forum owner.

Yeah, and £25 seems to cheap for this error. CCGB gives the price as £450 but it doesn't say when or where it went for that. Why don't you email the forum owner as he's also the author of CCGB

Reading this it's not too clear what is accepted as natural and what isn't. Gosh. Some shit ugly coins there! Yes, and reading it they blame the toning on Coins sitting in Sacks and Sulphur being the culprit. Yet the author of the page has coins for sale which states Darth Verde" 1885 $1 NGC MS65 $2,450 "Wild Endroller Twin Pair from the Same Roll" 1884-O $1 NGC MS64* STARS $3,000 (pair) So if these toned Coins came from a ROLL and were'nt sitting in a Sack individually how is it the possible for them to tone in a roll? During that time, the coins closest to the canvas of the bag or near the top of the bag were constantly bombarded by a minute concentration of sulfur.....

Went through some of the Londons catalogue and just could'nt be bothered with the Rest as its all over the place, so never noticed any CGS coins, can't say i'll be Holding my breath, just like any other encapsulated coin i assume

Coyotes and Rats, lol, yeah, something stinks of piss for sure.

Agreed, love the 1937 REV

I liked the OBV, but the next picture (REV) put me off, pity the whole coin was'nt as good as the OBV bust

I personally believe its because of the slabs. Not every consignment to Heritage is slabbed, so the y slab them to, which in turn will raise thw cost of the coin. Then also the American market for slabs and you have a receipe for fast money. I personally won't ever buy from them, far to expensive. Get a spink book out and look at some of the British Coins for sale and check their start prices.

OBV was really nice, REV not so, what do the hammered boys think of the price, fair? 111013320339

OBV was really nice, REV not so, what do the hammered boys think of the price, fair? 111013320339

I have been noticing the prices on Heritage. They just sold a 1887 sixpence (withdrawn type) for $56 or $70 if you include the buyers premium. Now it is a nice coin but not exactly uncommon and that is a high price to pay for it. Anyone know why they are able to get those prices? Seems to me that Heritage might be a good place to sell but perhaps not such a good place to buy. Heritage get high prices because they start the bidding at SPINK book price for grade, thius ensuring everything is overpriced that they selll. Its one auction house i don't use for that very reason So, as Jaggy comments, is Heritage a good place to sell but not to buy? If people are prepared to pay more than Spink prices, plus premium, presumably because there is some cache to a Heritage auction?? I will be selling some decent grades soon and will need to decide where ... if Heritage I will want to avoid any import duties etc, any tips very welcome! Import duties are for Incoming Paul, not for outgoing. If you're posting to Heritage then thats outgoing. Heritage as i said usually start their bidding at spink book for grade, not everyone bids their, i don't because of this, there's nothing left in their Coins and you may need to wait several years before it has something in it for you

I have been noticing the prices on Heritage. They just sold a 1887 sixpence (withdrawn type) for $56 or $70 if you include the buyers premium. Now it is a nice coin but not exactly uncommon and that is a high price to pay for it. Anyone know why they are able to get those prices? Seems to me that Heritage might be a good place to sell but perhaps not such a good place to buy. Heritage get high prices because they start the bidding at SPINK book price for grade, thius ensuring everything is overpriced that they selll. Its one auction house i don't use for that very reason

Despite everything that has been said, Martin Platt owns, or has handled and photographed, one of the best penny collections I've ever seen. So many photos on the 'Coins of the UK' website are courtesy of him. It would be interesting to know if he still has them? I doubt it Steve simply because i don't Even think he's a collector. He simply found out how to dupe 100s of collectors out of thousands of pounds. Having rare high grade Coins was a good starting point, bearing in mind he initially started on eBay selling CDs and other junk

Coinbuyer555 aka Mike Dennington and has quite a collection. A convert from Platt

Yes, PCGS/NGC will refuse to, indeed PCGS is proud of their "sniffer" which is supposed to catch doctored coins ( http://www.numismaster.com/ta/numis/Article.jsp?ad=article&ArticleId=17156 ) and NGC/PCGS will refuse to grade artificially toned coins ( http://www.ngccoin.com/details/altered-coin-surfaces.aspx and http://www.pcgs.com/nogrades.html) The problem is that they often miss some and since they claim to refuse to grade them any that get by are immediately considered to be "natural" toning to American buyers even though its as fake as fake can get. There's also people who claim to be able to tone coins already slabbed in PCGS/NGC holders, further making them questionable. Like all TPGed coins, buy the coin and not the piece of plastic. The fact that the TPGs know it happens says it all really.

Those defending it will be those who have most to lose, the very people who doctor the coins and sell them on at vastly inflated prices----IMO

Well that's interesting. I remember quite recently seeing some Morgan dollars with toning like that and the asking prices were really high for otherwise ordinary coins. Hence the reason the americans go to great lengths to tone them, then try and Tell us that its all naturally toned. Uh huh course it is, thank god we Brits have a bit of grey matter between our ears, the American buyers of the awful coloured Coins on the other hand