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They value the CGS one at £7500 personally i think yours look better Bob, whats the OBV like? So, do the dealer know what it was?

Sent.....................Let me know if you decide to go for it

Those later Florins were alway good strikes, nice coin though.

happy nights Now wasn't that a missed opportunity. When I was about 15 I went out with a girl who would always brought her best friend......... What was his name?

Overpriced then Depends how much and where it has been. I can see that you might pay up to 13 or 1400 with a bit of research. It would have to drop some Rob as it's inbetween those 2 figures already Where is it, Heritage? Australia

Overpriced then Depends how much and where it has been. I can see that you might pay up to 13 or 1400 with a bit of research. It would have to drop some Rob as it's inbetween those 2 figures already

Overpriced then

Ok, can't find nothing so thought i'd ask. What would this R18 cost roughly?

Lol, our toys in Dundee were a little more dangerous and consisted of Black widow catapults with ballbearings as ammo and air rifles. I still have legendary status after getting hit by a pellet at almost point balnk range, coming to within an inch of my eye when i was 14. Or the time when one of My friends brought 10 penknives into School and we were all slashing each other with them. Then there was the time i was hit on the bac of the head with an ornamental tomohawk, just as well it was blunt and Rounded or else my freaking head would have been off Ahhhhh, i miss those days, great times and scars

Good find! Unless someone else has already noted this then you've identified a new edge variety to add to the two already known. Moreover, there is likely to be a fourth edge variety based on the idea of a random mix of up or down legends relative to the obverse. I have asked everywhere and everyone I can and no one has heard or seen of this. I'm not sure where I should go from here. In what regards? You could send it back to the Royal Mint who would give you another to replace it. What else would you like to do with it?

Glendinings sale on Wed October 30th 1974 sold one, lot 356 graded as "practically mint state" and sold for 1500 quid hammer Mmm, sounds good now, but back then I bought my first house for £6000, so £1500 was quite a price. £1500 in 1974, that's probably around £40,000 now so it wasn't much of an investment On Tony Claytons website the 1798 is valued at £18,000 in UNC!

Can we look at the obverse again? Photobucket is kaput, so just an ordinary size piccy Pwhooar! What's the plan with that one, Dave? I totally related to a comment you made about wishing you could afford to keep them all. I think we're singing from the same hymn sheet with that one! I have a balcony on the house (as most houses in Munich do) so as long as its not raining i use the Natural daylight and nothing more. The coin itself is on the bay.

Can we look at the obverse again? Photobucket is kaput, so just an ordinary size piccy

No tripod/monopod/ or ipod used photographing this coin. Just a steady hand and a 4 year old olympus camera and some natural light

There are also people out there who buy high grade raw coins and send them to Heritage, these people make a decent living from this practise. Judging from some of Heritages eatimates, they're making a killing. There was once talk of a predecimal coin club, buying a raw coin and Shipping to the US of A,, just saying

Not wanting to buy it Rob, its the BS description that comes With it to Hype the bidders into a frenzy for a Common date coin and then whio in an OTT start and estimate price That really gets on my nipple ends Yes, but that's part and parcel of the estimate. Nobody is going to list a lot described as a decent example and then expect it to sell for multiples of its normal market value. It isn't any different to all those on ebay who extol the virtues of their listings, just that with eBay you are a bit more circumspect knowing who is likely to be the seller. In many US eyes, a 68 is an abnormality that should be pursued - hence the high estimate. It only needs one person to put a bid in at the reserve and it's sold. Many people buy the number just to improve their set ranking. Yes, but 9/10 eBay listings start at a £1 and end up with a possible 3 figure ending

Not wanting to buy it Rob, its the BS description that comes With it to Hype the bidders into a frenzy for a Common date coin and then whip in an OTT start and estimate price that really gets on my nipple ends

I will admit to having a chuckle when I saw that description. The more so that the close up photo of the coin does not really match the hyperbole. As a sixpence collector, this and other coins in the auction do interest me. But the prices are completely over the top. Which is a shame as I would have been willing to drop a decent number of dollars at prices which more accurately matched what I believe to be the value of the coins. I have bid and won a few times at Heritage in their weekly internet auctions and, usually, the prices are more or less what one would expect. But this particular auction seems to be completely over the top. I don't know if this is due to unrealistic reserves being set by sellers or by an auction house trying to manipulate market prices. It will be interesting to see how much success they have. You've hit the nail on the head Jaggy, OTT prices coupled with market manipulation. I said it before in a thread a few months back, but Heritage normally start the bidding at Spink book for grade and work upwards from there. Just because a Common 1853 sixpence is a Good UNC does'nt mean i want to pay 3 times over Spinks price guide. Of course, a quality soecimen i would have thought in the £259-£350 range, but over £1300 is a bloody joke if it Hits top estimate, in fact the £650 start price is a joke, thats Double what spink Rate a UNC at , and checking back on Londoncoins previous auctuons, best i can see sold for £160 in 2011 and another in UNC or near so in 2012 for £135

This sort of BS is what drives me away from American auction houses, talking up coins the way they do, there's really no need for all the schmazzzz ma tazzzz associated with what is a plain 1853 sixpence. HERITAGE, give it a break...................Here is their description of an 1853 sixpence, starting price is a whopping $1000 with an estimate of $2000 See how many metaphors you can pick out. All that's missing from this is a fricking billboard and flashing lights and if it hits the top end it will be 1000 GBP OVER Spinks UNC price guide Victoria Sixpence 1853, Young Head, S-3908, KM733.1, MS68 PCGS, just splendid, in fact one of the best English silver coins of any type we have seen, with intense luster, super-bold details, flawless surfaces, a flashy snow-white brilliant reverse with a hint of golden iridescent hues, and an obverse sheathed in an exquisite blend of golden blue iridescence. Pristine! From The Kairos Collection

Technically yes, but if you do a verification check on the coin it will come up as rejected, and the yellow label also highlights this fact. However it is something that needs a bit more prominence on the CGS website. On a separate issue a few coins I submitted are due to be collected tomorrow less than 30 days after they were submitted. That'll be why mine are taking so long then. Today is the 23rd day and its just gone to "finalising grade" that was after a phonecall as they'd been sitting at Level II grading for ever. So in theory My Coins should be with me next Friday, bets anyone?

The total you mentioned Paul won't consist of Londoncoins 1000 or more lots for any auctions they have, this will be where the serious slowdown occurs and probably coins like mine will get shifted to the backburner until Londons have been done. This is where the conflict of interest and serious lag starts in my opinion

Exactly My thoughts Stuart. By upping the turnaroumd time they are effectively covering the base where they seem to be struggling on the 30 day promise, but have now Shot themselves in the Foot by doing so and alienating at least 2 customers in myself and you. I can't imagime sending a coin off and not seeing it again for 3 months, and what happens if in that 3 months if they actually forget your coin or struggle with the 3 month turnaround, do they then up it to 6 months?

I never thought to ask this question, and it's directed to Paulus. When you went to view CGS at work, how many coins were they assesing in a day? I'm asking because of 2 things, 1 is their new turnaround times from May for the 23.99 for 30-90 day turnaround (previously 30 day) I'm assuming this is because of comments from this forum and maybe other forums about their 30 day turnaround which by the looks of things NEVER happens, so upping the turnaround times to 30-90 days will cover their asses, but i think it will also piss off a majority of people who want their coins returned in a maximum of 30 days. The 2nd reason i ask is because my 2 coins have been sitting on level II grading for 10 days now, one from the 20th March and the other since 26th March, so in theory the 1st coin has 10 days left to get back to me, but they must finialise the grade and slab the coin. The last time a coin of mine was in the "finalise grade stage" it took 10 days and a phonecall to get past that stage, so i doubt i'll see my coins in the 30 day turnaround which is f*****g annoying considering you pay for a service and you're not quite getting that service.

Glendinings sale on Wed October 30th 1974 sold one, lot 356 graded as "practically mint state" and sold for 1500 quid hammer