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Difficult one. Strange colour but that need not necessarily be 'wrong'. 1872 is not a rare date, and £74 for a GVF example sounds about right. However, I'd want to see it 'in hand' (mine, not someone else's!) before making a judgement call.

I think it's true of all ages, pre-Roman onwards, that gold was not used for everyday transactions. In the days before banks, it's the form you would have held your assets in, apart from property, land, and such like. Even from the 17th Century onwards (when banks appeared) gold would have been a rich man's toy - either held in a strongbox in preference to a bank, or used for gambling, betting, prize money e.g. in horse racing, or for paying for really expensive items like original works of art, racehorses etc. That's why pre-Victorian gold coins are worth far in excess of their gold value - the rarity value alone due to such limited issues makes them very costly for collectors.

I'd say that was London Coins being excessively cautious. If I were a seller, I'd say "Bold F/NVF"

Whereas the eBay description is just rubble!

It doesn't say "automatically" though. I think they're just covering their a***s.

I'd say VF too, but the edge knock is worrying. I'd not offer £200 for it. That series is by no means rare. You'll find a better one. Admittedly it was over 10 years ago, but I picked up an EF for £220. The Spink value is a bit OTT.

Bloody Brexiteers - they get everywhere.

No, but Philip of Edinburgh is definitely the husband in law of Elizabeth II.

Haha. Find a dictionary and a pin, see what words you can randomly hit then put it on eBay as a description.

As Neymar's price has just been quoted as £200m, he should be easily able to afford that!

What grades are the other coins in? If the 1905 is truly Fine, then I'd say you haven't done too bad. Without the dents that 1903 would probably fetch around £250 so you could say perhaps £100 or so with the knocks.

Coins were described as NEW PENCE until 1983 when the NEW was dropped. There's a few 1983 2p's that read NEW PENCE instead of TWO PENCE, but apart from those, none are rare.

Just about to get my bathroom converted to a wet room. Hoping it's neither eye-wateringly expensive, nor a lengthy process. Anyway, nice kitchen.

Me too - for the longest time I thought it stood for NorthWest Electricity Board

Welcome to the forums Cryogenic The worst example of what you mention is where someone has cleaned a coin to make it appear 'nicer' - this is the biggest no-no, as no cleaning can affect the wear that has already occurred, and will reduce its value. Another example is of people applying artificial lustre (or polish) to an EF copper to make it seem BU. Slightly trickier for the novice to spot, but with experience they soon become obvious. A third way is for a coin that has sustained some wear to be 're-tooled' so some of the detail appears to have been restored. Again, to someone familiar with the design of a particular series, this is obvious, but a beginner might be fooled. You can't make a coin 'better' than it is, with the exception of removing crud or very bad toning using very gentle and careful methods. If you're in any doubt, and you have pictures, do post them and we'll give you an opinion.

Does anyone know if Stephen Lockett (London Coins) is related to THE Lockett?

Replicas, fakes, forgeries ... it's a grey area. To take 1933 pennies as a single example. There is a replica (of sorts) which varies so much in essence from the original design, that no-one with any numismatic knowledge or experience would be taken in for a moment. They aren't stamped, but I wouldn't grumble if eBay enforced their removal, as a total newbie could be taken advantage of, and they are available elsewhere. But what about genuine Geo V pennies that have been expertly altered so that the last digit is a 3? If sold as a fake, people seem prepared to pay a few hundred quid for them, knowing them not to be the genuine article. It would be a shame if eBay removed those too, even if the description clearly stated it was not a genuine 1933.

You could look at Dave Groom's book - "The Identification of British 20th Century Silver Coin Varieties" which goes into greater depth than Davis.

Mint-sealed bags of many dates in the 60s (most denominations) were commonly advertised in the late 60s. Although these were sold between 1.5 and 5 times face value, their value slumped after 1971 and are still so common that they will never realise much more than face value, or intrinsic metal value. 1967 being the last year of predecimal coins is not relevant - all coins minted from 1967 to 1970 carried the date 1967, so they are among the commonest of all coins.

Well yes - but obviously I was talking about the obverse one! (His clearly wouldn't be the reverse one... )

I didn't know sulphur had a liver

Hunt down the collector who's got the double header and has been wondering, "I wonder what date it is?"

The 1933 Lavrillier patterns have a different portrait from the normal (you can see one in the Collections area on Colin Cooke's website). What you show above isn't even the standard 1933 obverse - it's pre-1927, probably pre-1922. It's just a penny that's been sliced in two. There is only one uniface 1933 by the way, and it's accounted for.

And DavidR too?

Yes, the top one definitely looks suspect especially compared to the lower one.