Peckris

Well done. I haven't heard anything from them, so I'm guessing I was unsuccessful. Pity as I left quite a few bids. You are quite right, my coins arrived this morning. However, I only won one lot, despite leaving a number of bids well over estimate. However, I'm undertaking a re-look at all my 20thC material and am upgrading where necessary, so the 1950 and 51 pennies that I picked up have nicely ungraded the GVF ones I already had. I'm not too disappointed, although I would have liked to fill some of the gaps in my early 18thC silver. Oh well, Lockdales at the weekend I guess and online bidding, which I quite like. Do you have the link please? Peckris, http://www.lockdales.com/ plus http://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues?clientUrlName=lockdales Hope you get something you want, but don't outbid me!!! Thanks Dave - there's not very much to tempt me there. I won't be challenging your bids!

It all depends how you grade. Some people downgrade weak strikes, but I would find that confusing - better IMO to mention the weakness in the grade, e.g. UNC weak strike on shield Unless of course all (or virtually all) the coins of a particular denomination struck in a particular year are weak (1920 pennies spring to mind). Agreed, to both. Weak strikes will command lower prices, just as early strikes attract a premium. Unless ALL or MOST such coins are weak (in addition to 1920 pennies, there are the reverses of 1907 pennies, the obverses of 1919H pennies, the reverses of 1917 sixpences, the reverses of 1895YH farthings, etc etc).

I've maybe seen that before, but what a gem! Is that yours Derek? No, it was sold on e-bay a few years back, I did bid for it but unsurprisingly it went out of reach. Another one which got away was a 1940 penny re-cut with a swastika instead of the union jack. Someone with a time viewer that could look 70 years ahead.

Well done. I haven't heard anything from them, so I'm guessing I was unsuccessful. Pity as I left quite a few bids. You are quite right, my coins arrived this morning. However, I only won one lot, despite leaving a number of bids well over estimate. However, I'm undertaking a re-look at all my 20thC material and am upgrading where necessary, so the 1950 and 51 pennies that I picked up have nicely ungraded the GVF ones I already had. I'm not too disappointed, although I would have liked to fill some of the gaps in my early 18thC silver. Oh well, Lockdales at the weekend I guess and online bidding, which I quite like. Do you have the link please?

Gotcha!

I've maybe seen that before, but what a gem! Is that yours Derek?

Always remembering that die wear and coin wear can be hard to separate especially for beginners. Small things like the lion faces are often the first places to show wear on both the die and the coin. If the reverse has full lustre and displays no rubbing or wear anywhere else, but the lions' faces are flat without losing lustre - then it's die wear and can be graded Unc (if the die wear is obvious to the naked eye and affects much more than tiny lion faces, then you would mention it in the grading - UNC Weak strike) You've misunderstood - GEF is better than EF. Derek was working downwards - i.e. if there's a little wear it's GEF, more and it's EF. But yes, buy the book!

A classic case of e-bay grading I fear...

an olive oil bath should get it back to how it used to look Nah, I quite like the new verdigris look I thought it had been At'd and slabbed as a VF50BL(ue). At'd ??

I was under the distinct impression that we had a takernment, not a givernment

an olive oil bath should get it back to how it used to look Nah, I quite like the new verdigris look

Once upon a time you could only hold a small number of gold coins here without a licence but those days are gone. Hypothetically any counterfeit coins could be confiscated but it simply doesn't happen, unless you're the counterfeiter.

there are special 2p toilet seats that help you get over that!!!

It's enough to drive you round the bend...

(I should have known placing this in someone else's thread would guarantee it got ignored!) Have a look at the reverse of this 1821 sixpence - there is a definite raised dot after the 2 in the date. It's not mentioned in Davies. It's the same sixpence I showed the obverse of a few days back. Any thoughts?

Jedi knight not you are. Bloody good job. You're weird. Thats rich coming from a coin collector! I think Rob may suffer from AstraBellophobia!

look at price of these coins going though ebay if you have any for sale for 30 quid contact me,these coin are real Collectors items and should not be rubished,same if you have any 1971 double headed half pence coins for 30 quid .keep them and enjoy them that's what is's all about. Many here would disagree - and would probably refer to them as ridiculously overhyped items that were minted in (as they now estimate) hundreds of thousands. They've probably not even now descended to their true level. On the other hand they may have, but I'm not about to wait around and find out. The sheer numbers that have appeared on eBay shows how non-rare they truly are. Worth pulling from change of course, but not IMO worth paying good money for. O let's see shall i, have a coin from my pocket, what a silly coin it is, what shall i do with it,i think i will throw it away,ye wat ever. I think the point that Peck was making is that these undated mules have been massively over-hyped on eBay, in the press and by certain less-than-scrupulous coin merchants. At no point in the next 500 years will these coins be worth the several hundred pounds that some people originally paid for them, and you'll be lucky to get much more than your money back on £50 in the same time-frame! I have bolded the pertinent phrase in Peck's post - the part which you seem to have completely ignored! Of course if the lady in Tesco hands me one in my change I'm going to pull it out, and I might even consider a £15-20 punt on ebay but no more than that! As an aside - you say about silly coins lets throw them away... a friend of mine has an almost phobia-esque reaction to 5p coins and actually does throw them away... to the point where he got us barred from a pub in Exeter when he hit the landlord with one! Thanks - yes, that's the precise point I was making. In years to come it will be seen just how ludicrous it is, that a coin with the estimated mintage of a 1950 penny (itself hyped to high heaven in its day, yet being a date scarcity is more essential than the 20p mule) should be sold on eBay at such vastly inflated prices, and even now - at £60 - rates higher than the now-accepted 1950 penny. The internet and eBay have much to answer for, in terms of hype. On the other hand, the internet does allow us to have these lively and friendly discussions from the warmth and privacy of our own living rooms!

Interesting. When I posted my 1821 sixpence the other day, I didn't think it worth also mentioning the presence of a similar "dot" in the date on the reverse. It's not listed in Davies, but you can see it quite clearly after the figure 2 in the date.

Cache flushed - let's see what happens. YAY - that worked. Thanks Rob. (It's only a change of colour - now you're saying Big Deal!!)

Jedi knight not you are.

OK, so the company is dissolved and not sold. I wonder who owns the copyright - presumably whoever the owner of the company was? I believe the title was offered to Token Publishing, who turned it down? This would have been mid-1990s. That's why I suggest they might be the best people to ask. Peckris, I did ask them about this title some 18 months ago and they rather loftily claimed that it was nothing to do with them. Yes, they are rather sniffy about the good old CM. I wonder if that's to do with the enduring affection people have for it compared to their own title! However, I do believe the title was offered to them when it ceased publication. (They also claim that their COIN YEARBOOK with blue pages of values, has no connection at all with the COIN YEARBOOK published annually by CM also with blue pages for values!!!) There's more here than meets the eye, I'd love to know all the goss

Hardly! Different usernames, but even if you reckon they have one username for the States and one for the UK, that doesn't excuse that the coin appears to be in Lawndale, California and in Warwickshire, England, at one and the same time.

The chrome may need regoing As long as the purchaser doesn't as you can understand has been in my loft but no marks or scraches does not come with original box as got wet. You couldn't make it up

look at price of these coins going though ebay if you have any for sale for 30 quid contact me,these coin are real Collectors items and should not be rubished,same if you have any 1971 double headed half pence coins for 30 quid .keep them and enjoy them that's what is's all about. Many here would disagree - and would probably refer to them as ridiculously overhyped items that were minted in (as they now estimate) hundreds of thousands. They've probably not even now descended to their true level. On the other hand they may have, but I'm not about to wait around and find out. The sheer numbers that have appeared on eBay shows how non-rare they truly are. Worth pulling from change of course, but not IMO worth paying good money for.

I've changed my avatar picture, which shows in my Profile. But when I do a posting, it shows my previous avatar picture. What's going on?