Gary D

I spoke to someone at a London Coins auction some years ago who had a 1953 mule and they had picked it up from a normal proof set.

Very good question! Some get included, some don't. It's all down to who compiles the literature. This one has been in all the books for years, so it's widely recognised as a variety, when strictly speaking, it ain't. What makes die fill NOT a variety, when a die flaw is? A die fill is where a cavity in the die becomes filled with material so that for instance a part of the legend disappears. A die flaw is where the die becomes damaged i.e. a hole giving a dot or an extended legend

Silver when it oxidizes turns black or brown. The wash being very thin could have completely oxidized.

You mean cleaned and then slabbed by PCGS

But I already HAVE eBay as a bookmark! As I said, it takes me to My eBay - the sign in page. As my bookmarks bar is full, with Pinterest, my blog, Library Thing, MacWorld, Audible, another forum, a writers' social network, iPlayer, Artwiculate, another forum, TV guide, Twitter, Facebook, here, a Writers' forum, Apple, Google Maps, YouTube, Wikipedia, another forum... why would I want TWO eBay bookmarks and where would I fit them???????? My bookmark takes me straight to Coins British. The search bar is then at the top of the page and if i want to sign in I hit hit sign in at the top left.

Definitely acid bath, maybe left in a glass of coca cola to see if it really can dissolve coins

Look like it flipped out of the machine as the reeding was being applied

There are two Observes and two Reverses. The are various tell-tails but Obverse 1 has the 1 of 19 aligned with a tooth. Obverse 2 has the 1 to a space between teeth. Reverse A has a wider gap between GRA and BRITT with the colon closer to the A. Reverse 2 has a narrower gap with the colon central.

Did I read somewhere that Heritage won't take consignment under $5000.

Well, I've taken the plunge and just sent off my first coin to be slabbed. I have a spare F176 in GEF that I purchased about 5 years ago from Neil out of the Crocker collection. It was red at the time but now it's mostly chocolate and as I've upgraded I want to sell it, so as a bit of an experiment I thought I'd get it slabbed by CGS. CGS has only one graded so far at a 40 so mine should go to top pop, hopefully at a 65 or better. Once slabbed my intention is to sell it. Now raw, ebay would hardly give it a look, although slabbed may get a bit more interest. Most likely I would auction it, probably London Coin would be the best venue.

The most amazing bit is how the judges can keep their eyes on the ball to score it.

Some time ago Spinks had a 1965 Satin proof crown for sale, I missed it at the time but that was also at twice their book value.

I thought that most of the oil is off the Shetlands and the previous time independence came up the Shetlands said they would stay with the English.

Yes it would work both ways but there are only 400,000 people born in England living in Scotland against 800,000 born in Scotland living in England. So they know where you are. So I guess when your passport runs out , it does record where you were born, you would either apply for a Scottish passport or take the English test and pay your £800 for a UK passport.

I assume the rational goes. The UK is part of the EU so if Scotland leaves the UK it is also leaving the EU. It would then be in the position of having to reapply and take its turn with any other East European countries in the queue. Re-entry could take years. So it will be a new Scottish passport and work visas for any scots wanting to live and work in England/Wales and NI. Of cause then the there's the whole immigration debate, we can't keep the Romanians out but we could the Scots.

I'm with you there Dave, but for me it's the Tory b******s in the Home Counties who should declare independence and leave the rest of the UK to everyone else including the Scots. If you were to widen that to southern England or where all us southern softies live that would represent 50% of the population in 1/3 of the country. Perhaps we should and leave the rest for the sheep.

Plus $530 import charge, bargain. I assume it is the seller that is 1 in a million or am I missing something.

Where does Salmon get the idea that he matters, he's just got delusions of grandure. If you work out the nation debt by head of population Scotland accounts for about 8%.

Well I think from the 2 or 3 1902 matt proof crowns that have appeared on here up to now that CGS92 is not particularly exceptional. I would even go as far as saying Nicks is probably better.

Trying to show the matt surface of the lettering compared to the currency crown.

And the other side.

Here's my example. Blown up it look like it's had a good rub at sometime, possible in the mint.

As opposed to rich kid, bully boy, hypocrite Cameron making his lofty pronouncements from 10, Mount Olympus? Can't disagree with you there.

I agree, that IS difficult! Had the description not suggested otherwise, I'd have said it looks right for the grade, and an example of what I was talking about! The obverse is horribly baggy, of course, but that isn't something that should unduly affect the lustre quality!Without the benefit of seeing the coin in-hand, my instinct would say typo or ignorance?? With the description attached, however, I wouldn't buy it on the images (though I would otherwise), I'd want to see it in the flesh! Edit: even the print on the reverse, whilst undesirable (though I'm not too stressed about 'attractive' prints), is generally a sign of a better coin, lustre-wise? To me the colour looks a bit odd and flat compared to the coins above.

I wonder how this effects the varying spacing of the KN, perhaps there were KNs punched with and without the H.