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The first has a more deeply engraved neck, the second is shallower. If in doubt, the I of GEORGIVS points to a bead and a space respectively.

How much more evidence is required?

See a doctor - that's abnormal. Better safe than sorry. In Suffolk it is fine. I have big ears & nose and big bertie bollocks.....trouble is my penis is only 10" ....girth. You should be fairly easy to spot at the Midland then. https://www.google.com/search?q=elephant&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=yQimU-D8LcKlPfqvgegF&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1920&bih=942#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=znIsLlsdbkfWBM%253A%3BPN2R_LizwebVdM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.utahpeoplespost.com%252Fwp-content%252Fuploads%252F2014%252F03%252Felephant-2.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.utahpeoplespost.com%252F2014%252F03%252Felephants-can-determine-human-voice-age-and-sex%252F%3B1800%3B1200

See a doctor - that's abnormal. Better safe than sorry.

And so the topic drifts from football to political football............... Further drifting will likely take us into politics, with the Green Party winning the World Cup.

I think it depends on how well the dipping solution has been washed off and also how well it was dipped. Over-dipped coins stay a lifeless colour, slightly dipped and they tone with a bit of colour in 5 or 6 years.

Hmm. Which ever way you look at it, image/ego is a great destroyer of wealth and marbles. All those must have impracticals don't come cheap, and the less they cover, the more they cost. I prefer a nun's habit. Oops, sorry, that's a burka.

Given they were supposedly the weak team in England's group and yet thrashed Uruguay. Uruguay were supposedly worse than England but still beat them. If Costa Rica put up a good show against Italy, then I can see them beating England too. Group winners? Edited to add: oops - just seen the score. Definitely likely to be group winners now.

I was going to say well done for identifying it, but I think there might be a trace of ONE to help him.

I took a rare foray onto planet football tonight and have to confess I thought the result was a fair outcome. The most striking thing to me was the near complete inability of England to win a one on one situation. Close ball control doesn't seem to figure much in their repertoire as it seemed they came off second best 8 out of 10 times, which isn't good enough at international level. They were too static when passing the ball, giving no options for incisive distribution.

Was that phoning the US or London office?

So what other emails have you received from them. The only ones I ever seem to receive is their wine evenings. I know there wasn't anything in my inbox, spambox, lunchbox etc, nor was there anything in some other people's boxes that you would expect to be sent them. I had quite a long conversation with GC this morning about said topic and he didn't receive email or catalogue either. Maybe even his money isn't sufficient to make it worthwhile for Spink. I think that the coin dept is disorganised in London since they put a stop on dealing, together with so many people moving on. It may be that coins are going to be organised out of the US, though Jon Mann has just joined them, which suggests they haven't given up entirely on coins. I'm still not convinced about this idea of Spink doing private treaty sales only, given the transparency of the internet.

I think the problem here is not so much checking for overseas auctions but rather the quality of Spink's business marketing. Spink have a database of what? Say 20000 collectors given the client numbers used? Obviously some willbe foreign, but a reasonable guess is that 50% are UK based. So if Spink can't be bothered sending out an email notice about a foreign sale of their own targeted at 10000 people, it begs the question as to whether they want those 10000 collectors business. Is this a portent of things to come as we know they are concentrating on private treaty business and dropping the coins/shop side? Is our collective money not good enough? When they don't give notice even to poeple who spend hundreds of thousands a year and who are UK based, then I suspect it is a case of management failure. Whatever, it certainly isn't going to improve the viability of Spink in the UK if they can't be arsed to give you an opportunity to spend money. $21K hammer for the 1882 penny was cheap and I suspect could well have gone higher if people on this side of the pond were aware of the sale. After all, if a slender 3 can make more, then £21K was peanuts. Baldwins, DNW, St. James', Brocks, Lockdales, London Coins, not to mention a whole stack of provincial auctioneers give regular advance email notice. It isn't even a question of no catalogue, which I can see they might not want to send across the pond, but no notice? The wheels have come off the bus methinks.

Didn't even know about it. That's the second one where they haven't bothered to communicate with their UK customers. Ah well, maybe our money isn't good enough.

Penny.

I do.

It is hit and miss, but I don't think you should get hung up on the fact that you might attract a large import duty bill. Goods coming into the country attract whatever duties are deemed payable. As the law states that imported coins attract 5% VAT you should assume that you will be charged and view any non-collected charge as a lucky gift rather than the normal state of affairs. Even at £1500 it is only £75 VAT, so in the context of the scale of the purchase not a huge amount, however peeved you feel at having to pay anything at all.

I think it's kosher

Anything's possible if someone breaks the connection between logic and action

Got one Azda, your about 6 months behind on the trend Good, so perhaps you could elucidate. I can see how you will get enough friction to hold it on the front, but how is it anchored at the back? Clenched between the cheeks, or tied down by a tent peg stuck up your a**e?

That's a sweeping statement. Only time will tell if eBay/Paypal are willing to honour that. I wouldn't want to claim as a test case because they would be certain to fight a claim as far as possible in case they set a precedent for paying out. How many times are Paypal or eBAy known to have sided with a seller. We all have examples of where the buyer gets his money, but far more interesting would be those where his claim is rejected. Knowing you are in the right is not the same as getting eBay's support.

Presumably the US cent came free with the other one. I sold an 1818 a few months ago in considerably better condition at nearly VF. It made............just over £2.

I think that's a by-product of the excessive silver output in 1816-7. You often see the large output of a new currency type, followed by a scarce date 2 or 3 years down the line. 1818, 1864 pennies, 1938 G6, 1912 &13 G5, 1954 E2 Cu-Ni. In the case of the G3 recoinage, there had been a shortage of silver throughout the Napoleonic Wars, so only with the introduction of a token currency whereby the value of the silver was below face could they issue sufficient quantities to satisfy demand - which of course they did with a vengeance. 1818 is a pig of a date for mint state shillings in contrast to the previous 2 years which are abundant.

Providing you've got proof of postage and/or the signature obtained upon delivery the only claim would be "Not as described" and I'm not sure how someone could claim it was 179 days before they noticed it wasn't as described without PayPal suspecting something fishy. The concept of retaining evidence for half a year would be mind boggling for the casual seller as opposed to any business which would keep receipts as a matter of course. So the question for them is how they store the evidence of delivery. Does the PO keep signatures for 6 months or is it less? As to the 180 day ruling, Paypal would adopt the same attitude as with something bought the day before - and then decide in favour of the buyer.