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Earlier in the year i recall seeing on a website a short cross coin with a previously unknown moneyers name on it. If my memory is correct it was Austen or Austin at Ocse ( oxford). Has anybody else seen this coin and if so do you have a link to the site it was on? I can't find it now. I found it by mistake previously while researching. I believe it was found on a club dig by a metal detecting club by a young female member. The images of the coin where on Twitter i think. Thanks.

Your welcome. Shortcross legends is on Amazon. Priced £35- 40 i think. Its constantly being updated with new editions so well worth buying.

Really. I just googled it and couldn't find it either. I know it did exist previously because I've viewed it before. It wasn't very good because it relied on ordinary folk to submit coins they thought were fakes. I should of told him to post it on here for a second opinion.

You actually did good for just a spink price guide which i assume you were using. The 3 is just a sub class. There's subtle differences in coins in between the classes so they get a sub class. I used a combination of books. Jp masses collection of short cross coins and Gerry slevins short cross legends. The last one probably being the more up-to-date of the two and more affordable if you were looking for a good guide.

I would pop them out the caps and try again. If your worried about smudges or finger prints get a glasses cleaning type lint clothe and use that to handle them.

After much examination & scrutinizing i think its a 7c3. The N and D kind of looks litigated and this is only seen with this Moneyer in class 7c3 and 8b also they are the only two classes that end with a D in London but if it were an 8b coin it would start with a cross pommee before the N in Nichole so i feel its highly likely a 7c3.

Hats off to him. I messaged him back and thanked him for pulling it. At least we know it's gone for now. I think forgery.net will second my opinion also so that should put his mind at rest and hopefully he won't relist it.

It is indeed a Henry III Nichole at London mint. In my book it has Nicolas de sancto albano(Nichole) starting off at class 7c so it can't be a 7b. If i could see the X in rex more clearly i could say with 100% certainty what class it is. Nichole worked 7c- 8c right up to the end of the short cross series in 1247. He was reported to have died in 1253 Ad. "This is only a guess but I'd go with 7c1 , 7c2 or 7c3" so you could probably mark it as 7c. Hope this helps. ?

Yes here's his response Thank you very much for bringing this matter to my attention!Although the item does look authentic to me, i.e., surface pitting, double strike, edge etc., and even it was bought some time ago from an e-bay seller with a good profile, I take your point and have just removed the item from sales. I shall give it another think and try to find more info on the forgery network. Kindest regards,Alex

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CHARLES-I-SILVER-SHILLING-TOWER-MINT-UNDER-THE-KING-MM-PLUME-1630-1/292318084489 Reported! Take a look at his others . I don't like that Lizzie 6d at all it looks mushy. Emailed him about the above coin just to let him know it's a rep as he may not be aware. Could be genuine mistake as he mentions the R in the listing.

Everything he sells is a metal detecting find. He's still trying to flog that pencil drawing of Michael Owen which he dug up! ?

This guy needs to invest some of his money in a new camera. Surprised he sells anything judging by his images. His feedbacks a chuckle. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Battle-of-Hastings-Commemerative-coin-metal-detecting-finds/292316497177

Sorry. Didn't realise. Someone should start one for Hammered acquisitions. It took me 10 mins to find this thread.

John short cross penny Ilger London Class 5c

If it is a contemp forgery its bloody good. First impressions are its ok mate. If it was contemporary forgery wouldn't it be base metal silvered or low quality silver? In which case it would be in bad shape after a prolonged period in the ground. I think its fine that mate. Usually with forgerys of that period the letterings all messed up and blundered. I can read that perfectly EBORACI is spot on.

eBay is great. Some of my best coins have come via eBay. You can't beat the feeling you get when you pick up an unresearched hammered at a fraction of its cost because it was incorrectly listed and poorly investigated. I've had some that still had soil on them fresh out the ground when they arrived. Hurrah for eBay ?

Thanks. Cost me £102 but its money well spent.

CLOSED......Sourced one on eBay. ?

Hats of too you guys for confronting these idiots. I don't have the patience to converse with them anymore. The unit price on those must be cheap to be able to sell them on at 99p. Probably getting them in bulk from Alibaba. I find the best way to get your money back with ebay is to instigate a return under item does seem authentic. Weigh and photograph the coin and collect proof of a proper weight coin to show as an example. The sellers usually back down immediately if confronted with viable evidence. On the odd occasion I've hit a problem and spoke direct with eBay they have listened and acted accordingly on my behalf. It could be down to the years I've been buying on ebay though that they are so helpful. Completely agree though that the refund process can be drawn out by awkward sellers.

I remember the old movie with Richard Attenborough playing him. Creepy guy lol.

That's stunning. Great find Gaz well done.

Back again! Either the previous buyers returned it or this crooks got a stockpile of them. https://www.m.ebay.co.uk/itm/INTERESTING-UNKNOWN-SILVER-COIN-TOKEN-READ-DESCRIPTION-/162721039056

Its not the first time for that seller either. They are frequently listing those Ancestors pewter sixpences as geniune. Clearly out to deceive.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1562-coin-queen-elizabeth-1-not-hammered/122766171510

Totally agree. I often get directed to their website searching for certain coins. The prices are outrageous. Your paying for a brand name when you buy from them.