Chris Perkins

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Aidan, I think Gary probably knew that 1910 would have Edward VII on it! He never said it did, just that he was looking for one. Do you think you could possibly stop crashing every topic and teaching the experienced 'Grandmothers' here to suck eggs? We are grateful for your input, but the fact of the matter is that most regular members here seem to have greater knowledge than you do.

I bet it was the Victorians, they were especially good at bending, stretching and squashing things! I've seem similar before, and they went into my scrap copper bag.

Looks like it's been squashed and rolled in a machine. If the rim was that high when it was made, then there would be very little wear on the design elements because they would be well protected.

You mean Lauer in Nuremburg, and those were all small toy coins as far as I know. The fake 'half sov' in the first post looks like it could be a Lauer. The Crown could well be a Joseph Moore.

The bottom 2 are coin weights, made so that merchants could check gold coins to see if they were genuine (no digital scales in those days!). The king on one of them is James I. The hammered silver coin appears to be a groat, but I'm not all that up on hammered coins. The model crown is exactly what it says it is....A design proposed by someone that was never used. Sounds rare, but they were usually made in large numbers and I think some even saw circulation. It's probably got the makers name on it.

Whooa there Aidan! The top coin and the '1/3 Guinea' are clearly forgeries, the colour is wrong and they are crude in comparison to the real thing! I have a couple of third Guinea forgeries in my forgery collection....And the half sov is simply awful. These are base metal coins coloured gold, and are almost worthless. The widow head coin appears to be a real sovereign.

Ok, could you send me one? I'll PM address.

Email me the link, I'd like to see it.

Yes, you could do. In fact, if every regular on the forum pesters Smiths for all of the books in print, Which are: 0948964-79-0 Collectors Coins GB 2006 (33rd ed) 0948964-71-5 Roman Silver Coins - A Price guide (2nd ed) 0948964-58-8 Collectors Bank Notes 2006 (14th ed) 0948964-75-8 British and Irish Campaign Medals (1st ed) 0948964-47-2 Roman Base Metal Coins - A Price Guide (3rd ed) 0948964-85-5 England's Striking History (1st Edition) And then, if they call to say they have it for you, simply say you found it elsewhere.

The 13th is out of print, but the 14th (2005) edition is available. It's £4.95 plus postage, which will be £4.00 to Australia. PM me, I assume you use paypal?

They arrived at the warehouse last week, but I only got to see one today! The handsome "England's Striking History" is now ready in printed form. The RRP is £7.95, but forum members can have one for £6.95 plus £1.00 postage (UK). More info is here: http://www.rotographic.com/hammered_silver_coins.htm 148 pages and a quarter of a kilogramme in weight. It's all you need to sound like you know about history at the next dinner party! It's the thickest Rotographic book ever (apart from those wierd books on At Hlan, who came from outer space to visit Roger and tell us through Roger's vocal chords about the future...But that was not soley Rotographic, and, well, it was quite barmy)

You do have a habit of, in the words of Basil Faulty - stating the bleedin' obvious don't you Aidan. I know that Llantrisant was opened in 1968 because of the volume of coins needed for decimalisation. I don't think you could call a project of that size a branch mint even if the London mint did continue striking sovereigns into the mid 70's. (And while I'm having a little moan, next time start 1 thread and list your conder token types, you don't need one for each coin)

Strictly speaking, I thought none of them were allowed to, except the BofE of course. The Scottish and Northern Irish banks have to hold enough BofE notes to cover the value of their own notes in circulation. I dare say that if a Welsh bank wanted to do the same there would probably be no problem with that. Perhaps there simply aren't any major 100% Welsh banks that would benefit or have the means to issue thousands of spendable adverts.

They're listed by denomination, as most people will find that easier on the brain, even if it isn't strictly right. Replacement prefixes are in, so are Specimens. There are instructions on Op Bernhard. And the Dardanelles notes are listed too (I even had one to provide the picture). You clearly don't have a copy Aidan.

Only BofE and treasury.

I don't think you can call it a mule as such, because after the useful period for conder tokens I think quite a few were made especially for collectors and no doubt using different obv/rev combinations.

No, I certainly don't have the time, resources or ability to make a real 'bible' type coin book. Re-printing one or more of the existing well known reference books, perhaps with a few additions is something I wouldn't rule out.

Found it! The reverses refered to were Peck reverses. I've gone through and carefully converted everything to Freeman spec in the 2007 edition. The book is evolving each year..........

Reply from Dr Sriro, Conder token expert: Morning Chris. The fellow has a silver or silver plated Bank Token. These were issued after the Conder token period, and therefore there is nothing more I can add. There is or was a book on these 1811 - 1814 bank tokens up on eBay, but I can't find it now. (so it would appear to be something struck at a later date using the obverse of one and the reverse of another)

I've sorted out the brass Threepence problems. I seem to remember seeing an older edition with a cross referece chart for the rev letters in the book compared to the Freeman letters. I'll see if I can find that and include it again, or change it completely.

From what source was that information? I don't see how they could have been all the same diameter in 1723 within 0.5mm. They didn't use collars of any kind as far as I know.

We get a lot of spam in here you know. The spammers probably aren't clever enough to pose as a coin person, but you never know.

I've checked it, it appears to be genuine.