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Had another go but sruggling 😂 1873

A very rare token I noticed in a bulk lot last week, paid £15 and there was an EF 1901 halfpenny and some other odds and sods as well.

Ebay, it's not ALL that bad, is it? Let's post some coins that we're happy we picked up on that much-maligned den of iniquity. I'll start. I picked up this Cromwell shilling in 2002 and I was very pleased with it at the time. I think it has been lightly cleaned at some time but is re-toning nicely. Prooflike fields. It wasn't a bargain, in fact, double EF book at the time😲. My inexperience led me into an adrenaline-fuelled bidding war.

Does anyone have any familiarity with the (believed Irish) "slap" tokens? I've picked up a handful and was wondering if anyone had any good references, these were countermarked silver coins, from what I can see, most of my host coins are William III coins from the "great recoinage" but I think one of mine is French since XRF shows it as 80% silver I've read the article that Gary Oddie wrote in the December 2001 edition of the Token Corresponding Society Bulletin, but I was wondering if anyone happened to have any more info on them, they certainly are interesting tokens https://imgur.com/a/Go5rKnw

And there you have it. An equating of 'liberalism' with 'Marxism'. If that is really what you believe, then there's no arguing with you, as you're coming from a position that is demonstrably and provably false, despite certain sections of the American right holding it. As for deflecting culpability for the slave trade by putting all the blame on local tribal rulers ... yes, you can safely argue those rulers don't come out smelling of roses but you're not asking WHY they handed over rival tribesmen to the slavers : if the slavers hadn't rocked up on the West African coasts offering goodies in exchange for bodies, there wouldn't have been a slave trade in the first place. When you talk about modern Africa, e.g. the genocide in Rwanda, yes that was unspeakably awful, but what point are you making? That people of African origin commit crimes or even atrocities? Of course. Human nature good and bad doesn't change with skin colour. But when you look at the so-called civilised West, the preponderance of white on black violence dwarfs any other kind. And when you look at Africa, where is the generalised racial violence of black on white? Yes, it's there, but it isn't institutionalised as it is in America and, to a lesser extent, in Europe.

I was contemplating bidding on this on Ebay as an F/E but then decided it was a filled die, what do you think? It went for £50 with 23 bids so I suppose others might have thought likewise.

Oh, and this 1827 1d. GVF detail, minimal corrosion, £175 delivered. Earlier this year.

I've posted these here before but they're probably worth dragging out again for this topic. Both last year. 1820 inverted 1 6d. GVF, £56. 1911, Gouby X, 1d. Fine, £1.50 inc. P&P.

I'd suffered a bad example of a 1948 3d for too many years - my 1946, 49, 50 and 51 were all better! - so when this UNC example turned up for (I think) £39 I just had to have it and my offer of £35 was accepted. It's actually better in hand than the pictures, being virtually BU.

I think we are completely at cross purposes. I was referring to death by police shootings across the ethnic divide, and what I said is supported by quantitative hard fact. Per million of the population shot by US police, 30 are black, 23 Hispanic, 12 white and 4 "other" - source But my main point is not the ethnicity of those shot, it is the fact that so many of them (of various ethnicities) have been unreasonably shot. I mentioned this after the George Floyd killing, citing the fact that so many of those shot were originally stopped for very trivial reasons - Floyd himself apparently stopped for allegedly passing on a fake $20 bill. A few weeks later I back that up with another killing of someone who ended up being shot dead after going to sleep in a drive thru. I supplied a link to that case. Both these instances would be laughingly trivial, if it hadn't resulted in two deaths. Hence my conclusion that the US police are essentially out of control, and need reining in on shooting and their often fatal restraint techniques. As far as Rayshard Brooks, the officer who shot him, Garrett Rolfe, has (rightly in my opinion) been charged with felony murder. You may think that shooting someone as they run away, having left their car behind, is justified, but I'm afraid I don't - and whether with or without a grabbed taser. At that point he was not a threat to the lives of the officers involved.

Well actually, if you read my post, I pretty much said exactly that. In absolute terms more white people have been shot dead by the American police, but pro rata, it's more African American and Hispanic folk. I'm not going into attributing the race blame game regarding crime. What I am saying, however, is that there is a huge problem with the United States police, which urgently needs addressing. Not by defunding, as police are still very much needed, but by root and branch reform of an organisation that is undoubtedly trigger happy - against all individuals. As you say, many white people have also been shot, and many of them, unreasonably. I return once again to the point I made in my original post regarding the sheer triviality of the reasons for stopping/arresting people, and them subsequently being shot dead. Quite how they escalate so dramatically is a bit of a mystery, but they do. The latest case, post George Floyd, is Rayshard Brooks, who was arrested for going to sleep in his car in a drive thru. Apparently he resisted arrest, grabbed one of the officer's tasers, and was shot dead whilst running off. Again a shooting dead, and two families lives ruined over an incident of everyday banality - you can read the details here I can't imagine such a thing happening in the UK, either over that, or apparently attempting to pass on a fake $20 bill.

The 1911 proofs are often very nicely toned, due, it is thought by many, to the materials in the box the set came in. Discussed and shown before, but here's mine - I think it's truly beautiful

That reminds me Mike, I was once asked to come up with a list of 10 sexual innuendoes... I inadvertently came up with 11, so I had to rub one out.

Mality. Mality. Mality. Mality. . . . . Well, that's got the formalities out of the way.

As he's only the Vice President, does that make him just a half pense?