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Finally cleaned coin using Sodium bicarbonate and Al foil method. A definite improvement I think. An aside to remove the coin from the slab I used a small hacksaw to cut across the slab between the coin and the label then another cut along one side of the slab as far from the coin as possible to avoid any damage.

Well I think I have finished playing with this one now. It has had time in the oven as suggested and also time in the sunshine with a little mineral oil on the surface - this seemed to make more difference than the oven to be fair. I have left a little oil on the surface as it is inclined still to look a bit matt. It will now go away in my collections as my example of 1859 over 8 Half Penny.

I’d grade the coin according to the level of wear, regardless of how it happened. Whether it’s from poor storage or circulation is irrelevant to me.

The only think I'll trip over at the moment is this pile of foreign coins.

Conspiracy theorist that I am makes you wonder why they are willing to pay so much for obsolete coinage as in specific coins? Have they been tampered with ? is there something deep in the coin that they need to retrieve? All these questions will be answered tonight on Film at 11

In that case i'm about to take europe by storm and buy £6000 for £150 lol

Thanks Zoo, think I need to book me a month of twelve off lol.

Quite true, unusual die pairings should certainly count, and are of course an act, deliberate or mistaken, of man (or woman). Jerry

I normally go on NGC and type a few of the years in and see what they book them at. Sometimes one of your coins will surprise you how much they are worth. I even sold a holed USA Dollar flowing hair type for £250 and a 100 mils can't remember the date 1935 ish only had mintage of 200k Sold that for £200. and a tiny silver coin with a peacock on for £150 unknown to me at the time had a character somewhere on the coin that made it a rare type. Think it was burma. And for the most part foreign coin lots are punted out by Brits so they don't have a clue what's there and can't be bothered to look unless it is something well known and some coins you wouldn't look twice at and are quite modern are worth thousands. Example 1953 canadian 5 cent NSF (no shoulder fold) Near leaf in AU-50 so GVF drum roll $6,900 canadian £3000+. That's where I try to hone in on the other countries Variety types but I need more books and some of them are unbelievable how much they cost £100+. But the net has quite a lot of good sites Sammler deals with german coins and lists all the rare coins . Even the new Euro's Some of them are now worth thousands. There must be a lot of foreign coins in the marketplace for each year even dates in the 1800's are like 1971 Pennies you think they must be worth a few pennies but they are abundant even in UNC. It's worth having a look it will pay for itself

It may or may not have been for photographic purposes. Nevertheless, it was a specimen strike prior to its becoming the new obverse halfway through the 1921 issue, and being the only example of its kind dated 1920, went into the Museum. AFAIK it never went into circulation until the 1921 issue. However I take your point, and unique specimens have been identified in more recent times, for example the 1953 penny with George VI reverse, and the 1952 proof penny. Bun varieties are still being uncovered.

Just for education purposes - the 1951 sixpence is in a high grade. That doesn't make it worth very much unfortunately (a couple of £?) but it's worth keeping to show the minimum condition that modern coins (certainly post-1937) should be in.

I’d agree too. Mis-strikes may be of interest to some (not me), but to be a true variety it has to be a physical alteration of the die, whether a deliberate or erroneous action of a human. Failings of the manufacturing process alone , and even die wear and tear (ONF pennies, dot coins etc ) may merit comment in the catalogues but in my opinion not varietal status. The only reason Freeman listed the ‘97 dot penny is that it was initially thought to be a deliberate die identification mark. Jerry

Considering this is what it looked like when I got it, I think it was worth the effort!

Looks good enough to go on ebay, uncirculated very rare variety

EF used to be defined as "very slight wear to the highest points only visible under magnification or close inspection" - the difference there being that VF was immediately visible while EF required some degree of peering. But one person's "slight wear" was another's "noticeable wear", so pictures - as in Derek's book - are everything.

If it were the 1934 Crown..........you'd be talking.

Arrived this morning 1837 Fourpence R/B on REX

I'm not sure why everyone else is having so many problems! I have been on Windows 10 for a couple of years and find it fine. (I did put a link to the File manager into the tabs at the bottom as a first move - can't work out why they want to make managing your files so difficult.) I have an HP printer that works fine wirelessly, as is the broadband. I even have a wireless speaker through which I play all my music from the laptop. You must have said something rude to Cortana and it has never forgiven you!

As far as doppelgangers go, I've always thought that this Lackington's token looked suspiciously like Stewie Griffin from Family Guy

I've recently disposed of a couple of kilos of foreign coinage and some obsolete banknotes through 'Left over currency' https://www.leftovercurrency.com/ None of the banknotes where decent enough grades for collecting so this was the next best option. It is a little tedious sorting all the coins and logging them in but it was worthwhile as I got back £122, it will just depend on what you have but from memory they paid quite high for Swiss and German coins. It took about a week from them receiving them to paying out