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wow, I spent ages with Spink, was right at the point of giving it a Group letter.. then discovered no inner circles, were as mine has.......! I couldn't find mm, however I did read pellets and was wondering..... Rob your examples are nice...in typical fashion mine leave a lot to be desired mucky detail an all .... 🤔 however! again pleased I've manged to slot another one in the page of Pennys. many many thanks Rob its been a great help 👍

So one of my other areas is French coins. I love their big silver coins. From 1974 to 1980 (killed by the Hunt Bro's attempt at cornering the market) they had a 41 mm & 30 gram .900 50 Francs coin. I still need a 1979 for that series and was looking on ebay. Now melt for them today is $60 USD and I see one at $72. Ok, reasonable. But bad feedback. Look at his other listings and lots of obvious fakes - an 1812 Napoleon 5 Francs for $65 (!) and even more humorously, a Kingdom of Hawaii 1883 (46,538 remain of 499,000 minted) in seemingly UNC condition. If real, an easy $1600 coin. $65 as well. Yeah, I think I'll get my 50 Franc coin somewhere else... The original I looked at: https://www.ebay.com/itm/800122943117 Clicking on the seller's other items is when the "fun" begins.

Tower Mint Charles I, 4th bust, Group D 3a1 penny, mm. pellet/2 pellets (assuming no extra pellets off flan), inner circle obverse only, garnished oval shield with no CR, standard legends both sides CAROLVS D G M B F ET H REX / IVSTITIA THRONVM FIRMAT with single pellet stops both sides. S2846. The bust is not directly comparable with the larger denominations, but broadly follows a style which can be dated 1632-1635, with a preference for the last couple years. It is a single arch crown, but the Gp. E bust typically has a double arched crown and is in any case a very cosmopolitan mix of styles given the introduction of the 'Aberystwyth' bust from 1638. Pennies were struck with pellet(s) as initial marks for most of the reign from 1630 onwards, meaning there is much dating conjecture. Stylistic comparisons seem to give the best results. I will do a bit of digging through Dave Greenhalgh's reference collection when I have time and see if I can find a die match. Chas. 1 pennies are a bit of a b**ger to find in high grade, with yours being a typical example. Lots of mucky detail, but not much really clear. Your best bet for a good penny of the reign is the last bust which crops up more frequently in thoroughly acceptable condition. Typical examples shown of a few busts.

Have you seen - Ancientart has changed his forum name!!

as far as I can tell its....... Charles I 1 Penny possibly 1630 - 32 Oxford? Weight 0.46 Grms not totally sure what group it could be? 🤔 all and any clarification greatly welcome. 👍

In A.D. 286, the Roman emperor Diocletian put Carausius in charge of clearing out the Frank and Saxon pirates pillaging the English Channel. Carausius defeated the pirates, but then declared himself ruler of Britain, in effect, becoming a pirate himself. Carausius struck coins in his name along with Diocletian and Maximianus in hopes that he would be formally named as a co-ruler; which did not happen. In A.D. 293, Carausius was murdered by his chief minister Allectus. In A.D. 293, Diocletian appointed Constantius I his Caesar and he defeated Allectus in A.D. 296 and control of Britannia was restored to Rome. Carausius struck coins in the names of the Roman Emperors Diocletian and Maximianus. This presumptuous and ill-fated desire to be recognized is why the reverse legend of these coins end with AVGGG- - one G for each Augustus. These coins also have XXI in the exergue, which is likely a mark of value, meaning 20 parts alloy to 1 part silver. They also have ML at the beginning of the mintmark; which translates as "money from London." Carausius A.D. 291 Ӕ Antoninianus 24mm 4.3g IMP C CARAVSIVS P F AVG; radiate and cuirassed bust right PAX AVGGG; Pax stg. l., holding olive branch and transverse sceptre; S-P across fields. In ex. MLXXI RIC V London 143; RIC V.5 London 2197 Diocletian A.D. 291 Ӕ Antoninianus 21x24mm 4.4gm IMP C DIOCLETIANVS P F AVG; radiate and cuirassed bust right PAX AVGGG; Pax stg. l., holding olive branch and transverse sceptre; S-P across fields. In ex. MLXXI RIC V London 9; RIC V.5 London 3546 Maximianus A.D. 291 Ӕ Antoninianus 24mm 3.8g IMP C MAXIMIANVS P F AVG; radiate and cuirassed bust right PAX AVGGG; Pax stg. l., holding olive branch and sceptre; S-P across fields. In ex. MLXXI RIC V London 34; RIC V.5 London 3607 Allectus A.D. 293-296 Ӕ Quinarius 19mm 1.9g IMP C ALLECTVS P F AVG; radiate and cuirassed bust right. VIRTVS AVG; galley with five oars. In ex. QL RIC V London 55; RIC V.5 London 276 This topic is merely a gloss on a subject that has several good books written about it. Two suggested books-- Roman Britain's Pirate King: Carausius, Constantius Chlorus and the Fourth Roman Invasion of Britain by Simon Elliot Rebel Emperors of Britannia: Carausius and Allectus by Graham Barker and Sam Moorehead

I can’t imagine for a second that this wouldn’t be welcomed, it’s a great idea!

I hadn't seen the other one! Yes, that's enough website linking for now Ancientart. Join in with some conversations by all means, and add your website to your signature. On a bit of a tangent, I was wondering about offering paid and not obtrusive banners/ads on the website, just as a way to cover the hosting costs etc. Obviously members that are also dealers would have priority, perhaps even a sub forum for each advertisers' offerings or something along those lines - just a rough idea for now.

I also think that sharing they are a trader and have a website selling coins of interest is something they should really be doing just once? It’s my view that coming on here and presumably linking us to every coin they’re selling is a bit of a liberty. Imagine if everyone out there started doing that? Even if all the longstanding dealers on here (who are engaging and sharing valuable content) started doing this routinely, it would be overwhelming? It could eventually open the floodgates to having a significant amount of dross to sift through to find content of interest. If it’s good for the forum’s traffic and ranking, could we perhaps have new sub-forums for ‘sales links’ under the various coin categories, Ancient, Hammered, etc., and encourage traders to use these? @Ancientart very nice work with the website, I have to say, nice and clean, a lot of effort, I really enjoyed browsing it! 🙌🙏

Hello Ancientart, welcome to the forum. I'm not suggesting your account or website aren't absolutely genuine, but to anyone reading this and visiting the website linked to above, I think caution should be exercised - the very generic looking website was created less than 6 months ago, the address is a PO Box (and has opening hours!) and the links to facebook, x, pintrest etc contain no content (yet). I'm sure Ancientart will build up a reputation in due course. 👀

There's a lot of country's central banks buying gold and silver rather than US Treasury bonds. Food for thought. Australian one pound and ten shilling notes up to the 1930s had the inscription on them with a promise to pay the bearer the value in gold coin long after Britain stopped issuing gold coins for circulation. The Australian branches of the Royal Mint were still minting gold sovereigns.

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Britain had had a token currency since 1816. Before then the wild fluctuations in metal prices - especially silver and copper - during the reign of George III saw only very limited strikings of those coins for currency. However, even a token coinage needs to not be unprofitable to produce, which it had certainly become by 1919. I'm sure you're right about the reasons behind that. Fascinating that the recent rise in silver values more or less brings it into line with the increase in cost of living since 1912.

Superb condition

Nice. Hope your shop finds a buyer.

This authentic ancient silver coin is a drachm from the Parthian Kingdom (also known as the Arsacid Empire), struck during the reign of King Vologases IV approximately between AD 147 and 191. The Parthian Empire was one of the most powerful political and cultural forces in the ancient Near East, serving as a bridge between the Hellenistic world and the rising Sasanian Persian civilization. Full Detail: https://coinsnantiques.com/collection/parthian-king-vologases-iv-147-191-ad-silver-drachm-ekbatana-mint/

That's why I posted this post because I read that these years had errors. It's half a sovereign

I am also not much into gold coinage, so I can add no expertise. I would say the RPD does not look so obvious to me, but others may have another view. Repairs and adjustments to the dies were very common in smaller denomination Victorian coins, so it doesn't seem unlikely on the Sovereigns.

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A florin in 1912 is worth GBP 15.00 in buying power in 2026 . A silver florin contains one third once of silver worth about GBP 16.00 in 2026. Food for thought I think. The argument in 1919 was silver had increased in price so debase the currency. the truth was the pound had lost value due to the pressures of WW1 and with the withdrawal gold in 1914 by issuing paper promises despite a short lived return in 1925 until 1931

Thank you for the tip

I can’t comment on the actual coin, but maybe this could be moved to a more appropriate place than the publications forum?

awesome...how many forums are you going to join to advertise your coin for sale?

Yup, that’s another one. Jerry

This authentic Ancient Greek coin from Macedon, Neapolis, dates back to approximately 375–350 BC, representing a significant period in classical Greek history. Struck in bronze (Æ), this drachm reflects the rich cultural and economic legacy of the ancient Macedonian region during the pre-Hellenistic era. Full Detail https://coinsnantiques.com/collection/greek-coin-macedon-neapolis-ae-drachm-circa-375-350-bc/