Ebay's Worst Offerings

[Paulus 1,942]

Of some concern is this eBay auction offering what they say is a CGS 82 slabbed and graded coin. There is no UIN Number in the listing, I have asked for it.

The seller says it is Choice UNC CGS 82, but look at the pic for this common coin (Not that that should affect the grade) GF ?NVF?

Edited August 9, 2015 by Paulus

[azda 973]

What is the auction number? And what is CGS highest graded number?

[TomGoodheart 373]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lot-of-7-Ancient-Coins-Wessex-Alfred-the-Great-Danish-Northumbria-Siefred-/191654064744?hash=item2c9f78f268

Complete with provenance, so must be good!

Jerry

They all look as fake as fudge to me. And yet.. people are bidding.

[Paulus 1,942]

What is the auction number? And what is CGS highest graded number?

The eBay listing is here:

link

The highest grade in the CGS population report is 85

Edited August 9, 2015 by Paulus

[Michael-Roo 777]

Just out of interest, how would members grade this one?

[azda 973]

Just out of interest, how would members grade this one?

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CGS 80 maybe

[Geordie582 18]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lot-of-7-Ancient-Coins-Wessex-Alfred-the-Great-Danish-Northumbria-Siefred-/191654064744?hash=item2c9f78f268

Complete with provenance, so must be good!

Jerry

They all look as fake as fudge to me. And yet.. people are bidding.

I would agree. There are quite a few Anglo-Saxon Northumbrian appearing on Ebay lately just as pristine and definitely cast copies.

Edited August 9, 2015 by Geordie582

[Coinery 926]

Just out of interest, how would members grade this one?

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EF at least! It has that rubbing on the bust that looks misleading. If you compare that 'rubbing' to a bronze penny of G5, which commonly shows that kind of wear, you will realise the ballpark you're playing in!

Buying?

[Michael-Roo 777]

No. Not me.

Just thought I'd gauge opinions. Its from the same source as Paulus' 1825 choice Unc sixpence. This (a sixpence), is also listed as choice Unc. It was the rubbing which I too had noticed.

[azda 973]

No. Not me.

Just thought I'd gauge opinions. Its from the same source as Paulus' 1825 choice Unc sixpence. This (a sixpence), is also listed as choice Unc. It was the rubbing which I too had noticed.

Thecoincabinet funnily enough there is not Even a hint of a slab in his pictures

[MRD 6]

No. Not me.

Just thought I'd gauge opinions. Its from the same source as Paulus' 1825 choice Unc sixpence. This (a sixpence), is also listed as choice Unc. It was the rubbing which I too had noticed.

Thecoincabinet funnily enough there is not Even a hint of a slab in his pictures

Very well edited pictures, lots of slabs there! Bit pricey even off Ebay.

[bagerap 706]

I know there's supposed to be one born every minute, but surely anyone can see that this is a pile of ordure?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VERY-RARE-TOKEN-HISPANIOLA-1780-PIECE-OF-EIGHT-UNC-28MM-VERY-COLLECTABLE-V-130-/201403612756?hash=item2ee4973e54

It was even discussed on this site 10 years ago FFS!

[rooneydog 9]

I know there's supposed to be one born every minute, but surely anyone can see that this is a pile of ordure?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VERY-RARE-TOKEN-HISPANIOLA-1780-PIECE-OF-EIGHT-UNC-28MM-VERY-COLLECTABLE-V-130-/201403612756?hash=item2ee4973e54

It was even discussed on this site 10 years ago FFS!

Posted by "Horace Morris" on here 10 years ago - made me laugh and Chris

[jelida 1,197]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lot-of-7-Ancient-Coins-Wessex-Alfred-the-Great-Danish-Northumbria-Siefred-/191654064744?hash=item2c9f78f268

Complete with provenance, so must be good!

Jerry

They all look as fake as fudge to me. And yet.. people are bidding.

I would agree. There are quite a few Anglo-Saxon Northumbrian appearing on Ebay lately just as pristine and definitely cast copies.

They went for £848.........madness, some people should not be trusted with money!

Jerry

[azda 973]

Says it all about ebay

[Nordle11 564]

[jelida 1,197]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Penny-1861-Freeman-28-dies-5-G-Very-Rare-rated-R18-by-Freeman-/331634213605?hash=item4d36f082e5

Ever the optomist! Usually wrong.

Jerry

[bagerap 706]

I've had some very fine buys from this seller.

[jelida 1,197]

I've had some very fine buys from this seller.

I'm sure many of the coins are fine, and he does start them cheaply. I can only comment on the pennies here, but since xmas he has (presumably inadvertently) on a number of occasions misattributed Victorian pennies, identifying mundane coins as excessively rare Freeman varieties , I have yet to see him do the opposite but do check his coins as presumably he will get it wrong in the other direction eventually!

This coin was the latest example, but I see he has cancelled the auction today, perhaps it will be relisted correctly described.

Or am I 'ever the optomist?'

Jerry

[DaveG38 385]

I've had some very fine buys from this seller.

I'm sure many of the coins are fine, and he does start them cheaply. I can only comment on the pennies here, but since xmas he has (presumably inadvertently) on a number of occasions misattributed Victorian pennies, identifying mundane coins as excessively rare Freeman varieties , I have yet to see him do the opposite but do check his coins as presumably he will get it wrong in the other direction eventually!

This coin was the latest example, but I see he has cancelled the auction today, perhaps it will be relisted correctly described.

Or am I 'ever the optomist?'

Jerry

Not being a Victorian Penny specialist, can you say what the attribution should have been?

[jelida 1,197]

Obverse 6, reverse G, one of the commonest varieties.

To be fair to him, I see that he did re-list it correctly this morning, good man. We do all make mistakes, perhaps it was inadvertant.

Jerry

[Nordle11 564]

It looks like a 6+G but hard to tell from such dark pictures.

Edit: I must have spent longer than 5 minutes working it out haha, thanks Jelida.

Edited August 22, 2015 by Nordle11

[just.me 23]

Not being a Victorian Penny specialist, can you say what the attribution should have been?

The 1861 Penny is 6+G Freeman 33.

Edit: Oops, a bit slow there, I didn't realise it was continued onto another page

Edited August 22, 2015 by just.me

[Nordle11 564]

Not being a Victorian Penny specialist, can you say what the attribution should have been?

The 1861 Penny is 6+G Freeman 33.

Edit: Oops, a bit slow there, I didn't realise it was continued onto another page

Haha did exactly what I did! Although it just further confirms the die combo which can't be a bad thing

[Nordle11 564]

I've never heard of "Convict love tokens" before, but this guy sounds like he's just trying to make a pretty penny.

If it's rare as such, why the garble about how these coins often sell for much more or how it's such a 'great' investment.. Surely buyers of these types of things would know the value, especially if they're paying upwards of £800?

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