Andriulis Posted September 4, 2015 Posted September 4, 2015 Hello, I need your help again. Could someone shown in pictures where is the difference? Is it only in portrait or in other details too?Thanks Quote
declanwmagee Posted September 4, 2015 Posted September 4, 2015 Hi Andriulis,The best way to tell the difference is a very slight difference in the pointing of the A in GRASpink 4021 covers Obv 1 and Obv 2Spink 4021A is Obv 3Obv 1: A at a beadObv 2: A between beadsObv 3: A is just to the right of a beadThere's also two reverses for the 1920 halfcrown:Rev A: Raised edge to garter above F, no pocket above CRev B: Plain edge to garter above F, pocket above CThe possible combinations, by Davies number, are:1+A, D.1672 (commonest)1+B, D.1673 (scarce)2+A, D.1674 (scarcest)3+A, D.1675 (common)3+B, D.1676 (scarce)In addition, Peter Davies has added a D.1675B, which is a modified Obv 3, characterised by a thicker rim, with tiny beads rather than small teeth. It's probably scarcer than any of the previously documented coins. Sorry it's not photos, but hope that helps Declan : ) 1 Quote
Mr T Posted September 5, 2015 Posted September 5, 2015 In addition, Peter Davies has added a D.1675B, which is a modified Obv 3, characterised by a thicker rim, with tiny beads rather than small teeth. It's probably scarcer than any of the previously documented coins.Is it mentioned in any literature? Quote
declanwmagee Posted September 5, 2015 Posted September 5, 2015 In addition, Peter Davies has added a D.1675B, which is a modified Obv 3, characterised by a thicker rim, with tiny beads rather than small teeth. It's probably scarcer than any of the previously documented coins.Is it mentioned in any literature?All I know about 1675B, Mr T, is that Mr Davies was selling a GF example a couple of years ago. I don't suppose he still has it! Quote
Mr T Posted September 6, 2015 Posted September 6, 2015 All I know about 1675B, Mr T, is that Mr Davies was selling a GF example a couple of years ago. I don't suppose he still has it! No I suppose not. Does he have a website? Quote
Andriulis Posted September 7, 2015 Author Posted September 7, 2015 I'm still trying. Is that Spink 4021? Obv. 1?http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1920-GEORGE-V-HALF-CROWN-EF-ESC-states-this-coin-is-scarce-/361288695494?hash=item541e7bfec6http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1920-George-V-Silver-Half-Crown-Scarce-GVF-/252000906274?hash=item3aac6cac22Thanks Quote
Nonmortuus Posted September 7, 2015 Posted September 7, 2015 From what Declan posted it looks like it yes to my eyes. Quote
ozjohn Posted September 10, 2015 Posted September 10, 2015 Try Micheal Coins site where different reverses of 1920 halfcrowns are presented in his lists of UK coins. Quote
declanwmagee Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 http://www.michael-coins.co.uk/hc1920%20rev%20A+B.htmreally good photos and description! I did have a reverse B once but sold it before doing my homework....oops Quote
ozjohn Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 I thought I had a reverse B and sent a picture to Micheal who confirmed it was. It was a narrow relief on the reverse which was different from the example that Micheal had. I brought it from NGS in Florida as a MS 62 which was a rare case where the grading was correct as I don't think NGS understood the poor strikes of that period. Quote
Mr T Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 http://www.michael-coins.co.uk/hc1920%20rev%20A+B.htmreally good photos and description! I did have a reverse B once but sold it before doing my homework....oopsAh thanks! Quote
ozjohn Posted September 12, 2015 Posted September 12, 2015 With reference to my earlier post should read shallow relief not narrow relief. Sorry if there is any confusion. Quote
Andriulis Posted September 25, 2015 Author Posted September 25, 2015 Hello again,thats my new purchase. Am I right, that it's high relief obverse (Spink 4021)? And what grade could it be? I think it's VF, maybe slightly better, but weakly struck reverse. Any comments are welcome, be harsh.Thanks Quote
PWA 1967 Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 Not want to put a negative in.However V/F or better i am not sure about that. Quote
Andriulis Posted September 25, 2015 Author Posted September 25, 2015 I'm only trying to work with "Grading British coins". It's still very possible, that I understood it's information not very correctly. Quote
PWA 1967 Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 You said be harsh so being honest it appears to be.......Terrible ?. Quote
Andriulis Posted September 26, 2015 Author Posted September 26, 2015 Thanks PWA 1967. Could you explain a little bit more?Technically I try to look at the edge of the shield and moto in reverse. For me it corresponds to VF picture in "Grading British coins". Same in obverse - end of mustache, top of ear and hairlines are flattened, but still corresponds to VF picture. Where are my main mistakes? Thanks Quote
Andriulis Posted September 26, 2015 Author Posted September 26, 2015 I've tried to contrast picture more. Maybe that will show my views better. Quote
PWA 1967 Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 Lot of people on here with much more knowledge than me.Hopefully someone else will give you an opinion.The last few pictures make it appear better.Pete. Quote
Rob Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 The pictures really don't help. It looks as if the I in HONI is virtually flat, in which case it would be difficult to assign a grade higher than fine, but then the rest looks better. Assuming the I is a red herring, then VF or so is probably right. Quote
PWA 1967 Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 I learned that some pictures worth looking at again your later ones better.Sure you can find a better one though does not seem something rare/unusual.Can i ask what you paid for it ?.Thats the important bit ,so if you want to buy a better one you can get your money back. Quote
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