Nurse!

[Rob]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-25793358

[Sword]

I am simply speechless!

[DaveG38]

Seems to me that you vote UKIP if you want weirdos or nutjobs in power, with sincere apologies to any coinies on here who are members of UKIP.

Edited January 19, 2014 by DaveG38

[scottishmoney]

That good old yank preacher Pat Robertson called Scotland a dark dark land - after he was hired to do promos for the Scottish tourism board - he referred to Scotland so because of some similar thing.

Those busying themselves condemning others to a hell will oft find themselves there instead.

[Accumulator]

I think he was actually a Tory councillor who recently defected (not that this would be highlighted by our impartial press). Anyway, a complete idiot, whatever!

I'm not a member of any party, but I do think that Farage has played an key part in starting a proper debate on some important issues. There's been a lot of 'me too' from the other parties since he did this. I'm not saying he's right, but I do believe that our national democracy is at least worth discussing before we hand it over to Herman Van Rompuy (he of the 'low grade bank clerk' description) and his ilk in Brussels!

[Peter]

What are these people on me and Mr Peter are so good for each other .

For goodness sake.

[Coinery]

I read the first line about "shamelessly..." and that was enough, no need to waste any more energy on the rest! My God, we'll be burning witches and hanging the blacks in no time! I'm wholly disgusted to be a part of a society that still allows such shameless disgrace in politics...or any area of our lives!

Thanks for the heads-up on UKIP! If a man can remain in ANY party following such a statement, it's not, or ever will be, a party for me!

[Peckris]

Apparently Nigel Farage has promised to purge UKIP of members with extreme or sensational opinions - presumably he will start with himself?

[Rob]

I read the first line about "shamelessly..." and that was enough, no need to waste any more energy on the rest! My God, we'll be burning witches and hanging the blacks in no time! I'm wholly disgusted to be a part of a society that still allows such shameless disgrace in politics...or any area of our lives!

Thanks for the heads-up on UKIP! If a man can remain in ANY party following such a statement, it's not, or ever will be, a party for me!

Don't kid yourself. A group of two will have diverging views. A political party will have as many views as members, some of which you will agree with, some you won't. Although all will pay lip service to the general policies of the party, more than a few individuals will have views you find disagreeable at the least. It doesn't matter whether your views are left or right because at the extremes of both sides they are much, much closer to each other than the moderates of either persuasion.

[Coinery]

I read the first line about "shamelessly..." and that was enough, no need to waste any more energy on the rest! My God, we'll be burning witches and hanging the blacks in no time! I'm wholly disgusted to be a part of a society that still allows such shameless disgrace in politics...or any area of our lives!

Thanks for the heads-up on UKIP! If a man can remain in ANY party following such a statement, it's not, or ever will be, a party for me!

Don't kid yourself. A group of two will have diverging views. A political party will have as many views as members, some of which you will agree with, some you won't. Although all will pay lip service to the general policies of the party, more than a few individuals will have views you find disagreeable at the least. It doesn't matter whether your views are left or right because at the extremes of both sides they are much, much closer to each other than the moderates of either persuasion.

Political parties can be at opposite ends of the spectrum, yet still hold basic human principles as a core value, surely (thy shalt not kill and all that!)? I totally understand that they pander to our most popular percentage to win power but, if the day ever comes that the UK degrades itself to such devoluted views (and only conscience can presently define those) en mass, then I'm done with this society!

[Accumulator]

I read the first line about "shamelessly..." and that was enough, no need to waste any more energy on the rest! My God, we'll be burning witches and hanging the blacks in no time! I'm wholly disgusted to be a part of a society that still allows such shameless disgrace in politics...or any area of our lives!

Thanks for the heads-up on UKIP! If a man can remain in ANY party following such a statement, it's not, or ever will be, a party for me!

Don't kid yourself. A group of two will have diverging views. A political party will have as many views as members, some of which you will agree with, some you won't. Although all will pay lip service to the general policies of the party, more than a few individuals will have views you find disagreeable at the least. It doesn't matter whether your views are left or right because at the extremes of both sides they are much, much closer to each other than the moderates of either persuasion.

The difficulty for any smaller party is that the big 3 all have very extensive and well established mechanisms to filter out 'off message' opinions and actions, it doesn't mean they aren't there. Occasionally they appear and cause a major headache - take the Labour councilors in Liverpool in the 80s, for example. UKIP, having appeared from nowhere and, needing to appoint hundreds of unknown candidates at all levels (prospective Councilors, MEPs & MPs), are going to struggle and the fruitcakes will undoubtedly present themselves. The party should be judged more by their reaction to the nutters than by the fact that they exist. This man should be dumped immediately.

[Rob]

Most people are tolerant of many things. Most also have a leaning to one party or another. None will claim they are trying to revoke basic values. You can count the legitimate parties on both hands. There are a much larger number of individuals who have to align themselves with one of these meaning all parties will have their black sheep. I believe that in the case of UKIP, many voters support it simply for its stance on Europe which is unambiguous, not because of some nutter from Henley-on-Thames invoking the wrath of God. He moved in and can't represent their mainstream view.

Many people have already abandoned politics by not bothering to vote. This will only further the case for abstention.

[Accumulator]

Political parties can be at opposite ends of the spectrum, yet still hold basic human principles as a core value, surely (thy shalt not kill and all that!)? I totally understand that they pander to our most popular percentage to win power but, if the day ever comes that the UK degrades itself to such devoluted views (and only conscience can presently define those) en mass, then I'm done with this society!

I think you can safely assume, even based on the responses here, that such crazy views will never gain traction.

[Coinery]

Political parties can be at opposite ends of the spectrum, yet still hold basic human principles as a core value, surely (thy shalt not kill and all that!)? I totally understand that they pander to our most popular percentage to win power but, if the day ever comes that the UK degrades itself to such devoluted views (and only conscience can presently define those) en mass, then I'm done with this society!

I think you can safely assume, even based on the responses here, that such crazy views will never gain traction.

I so very much hope so! I really don't fancy suspending myself from important buildings in defiance of a system I can't survive in! I struggle with it all as it is!