HistoricCoinage Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 Nearly £50,000's worth of coins have been stolen from the car of Lloyd Bennett recently. A list is due to be published but there are some high grade hammered and milled coins within them. Just a heads up to anyone that gets offered an unusual amount over the next few days or weeks. Hopefully the coins will be found and the perpetrators brought to justice. Quote
Paulus Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 Nearly £50,000's worth of coins have been stolen from the car of Lloyd Bennett recently. A list is due to be published but there are some high grade hammered and milled coins within them. Just a heads up to anyone that gets offered an unusual amount over the next few days or weeks. Hopefully the coins will be found and the perpetrators brought to justice.Jeez I hope Lloyd doesn't suffer in any way, he seems like a real gent Quote
Coinery Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 Crikey, I don't think I could even leave £50k unattended in a car, it would be too life changing to lose them!I would expect that some coins will soon turn up, and the light-fingered one/ones be brought to bear!I hope it works out OK for Lloyd!Something else to think on. Some friends of ours recently bought a car that turned out to be stolen...car taken away, no money returned! You've got to feel sorry for any out there who may now be buying stolen coins inadvertently, and having to ultimately forfeit the coin AND most likely their money!We'll have to get the list up soon! Quote
HistoricCoinage Posted October 11, 2013 Author Posted October 11, 2013 he seems like a real gent He is! Hopefully all will be returned, time will tell. Quote
HistoricCoinage Posted October 11, 2013 Author Posted October 11, 2013 I'm not sure of the details but I know I'd never leave something like that unattended.We'll have to get the list up soon! Precisely. I've asked Lloyd for a list and shall post it here as soon as I receive it. Quote
NRP Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 The list is on the bnta website, fortunately it seems he only had coins under £1000 therefore not losing the entirety of his stock Quote
Asumel Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 Nearly £50,000's worth of coins have been stolen from the car of Lloyd Bennett recently. A list is due to be published but there are some high grade hammered and milled coins within them. Just a heads up to anyone that gets offered an unusual amount over the next few days or weeks. Hopefully the coins will be found and the perpetrators brought to justice.That's just awful, I hope they get caught! Quote
azda Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 The list is on the bnta website, fortunately it seems he only had coins under £1000 therefore not losing the entirety of his stockWell i suppose you have to be thankful it was'nt 50k worth, i would have been crying for days at losing that sort of stock.Hope the police catch them soon. Quote
TomGoodheart Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 (edited) Lloyd has marked up his website to show which of his stock was stolen, so if anything is offered from an unusual source it can be checked against the photos there: http://www.coinsofbritain.com/pages/coins/coins-all.asp Most of the stock appears to have gone, from hammered to medallions. I wonder if he was putting it all back into (or collecting it from) the bank? I hope they are all recovered and soon. Edited October 11, 2013 by TomGoodheart Quote
azda Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 There's certainly more than Neils £1000 estimate been stolen. The 1st 4 coins ran to £1400, so i'm assuming the value is much higher than whats on the BNTA Website Quote
TomGoodheart Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 (edited) There's certainly more than Neils £1000 estimate been stolen. The 1st 4 coins ran to £1400, so i'm assuming the value is much higher than whats on the BNTA Website I think maybe it was that the coins are below £1000 sale price. But yeah, I can believe £50,000 worth. I've noted 36 Charles I shillings alone amongst those lost.The worry is if they aren't found soon they will just be melted. I'm sure they must be insured. But the numismatic loss .. Edited October 11, 2013 by TomGoodheart Quote
DaveG38 Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 (edited) Many of them seem to be nice quality, but easily moved as they don't have too many distinguishing features - if they did they wouldn't be as attractive as they appear to be. However, this one could be a very easy spot as it's quite unusual and distinctive: Edited October 11, 2013 by DaveG38 Quote
Peter Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 If they were stolen to order I think they might disappear into the either. It really must be a show stopper when something like this happens. Quote
azda Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 There's certainly more than Neils £1000 estimate been stolen. The 1st 4 coins ran to £1400, so i'm assuming the value is much higher than whats on the BNTA Website I think maybe it was that the coins are below £1000 sale price. But yeah, I can believe £50,000 worth. I've noted 36 Charles I shillings alone amongst those lost.The worry is if they aren't found soon they will just be melted. I'm sure they must be insured. But the numismatic loss .. I only hope whoever has Stolen the coins knows that they have value and hopefully can be traced at some point. You have to wonder if Lloyd was maybe a known dealer to the thieves, if thats the case then i doubt they'd be melted Quote
NRP Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 Yes the BNTA said coins 1000 or below but obviously that can still be a very hefty amount!!! Quote
NRP Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 Yes the BNTA said coins 1000 or below but obviously that can still be a very hefty amount!!! Quote
HistoricCoinage Posted October 11, 2013 Author Posted October 11, 2013 Yes the BNTA said coins 1000 or below but obviously that can still be a very hefty amount!!!I make the total value is £17,630 so I'm not sure where the £50k figure I was told came from... Quote
azda Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 Yes the BNTA said coins 1000 or below but obviously that can still be a very hefty amount!!! I make the total value is £17,630 so I'm not sure where the £50k figure I was told came from...17k is still a hefty amount in anyones eyes, plus its his job/stock Quote
1949threepence Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 I'm not sure of the details but I know I'd never leave something like that unattended.We'll have to get the list up soon! Precisely. I've asked Lloyd for a list and shall post it here as soon as I receive it.Will keep a lookout in case any come to light. Quote
Red Riley Posted October 12, 2013 Posted October 12, 2013 Something I'm always afraid of when I do coin shows etc. Unfortunately it happens, I do remember of a small dealer a few years ago who had a large chunk of his stock stolen. Alarmingly and although nothing was proven, the word 'on the street' was that another dealer was the culprit. Quote
azda Posted October 12, 2013 Posted October 12, 2013 Something I'm always afraid of when I do coin shows etc. Unfortunately it happens, I do remember of a small dealer a few years ago who had a large chunk of his stock stolen. Alarmingly and although nothing was proven, the word 'on the street' was that another dealer was the culprit.To be honest Derek, i COULD see that happening. Its a cut throat business and i'm sure a bit of jealousy can creep in amoung dealers Quote
HistoricCoinage Posted October 12, 2013 Author Posted October 12, 2013 Something I'm always afraid of when I do coin shows etc. Unfortunately it happens, I do remember of a small dealer a few years ago who had a large chunk of his stock stolen. Alarmingly and although nothing was proven, the word 'on the street' was that another dealer was the culprit.A good example of something similar is Lord Stewartby's collection. Stolen from his house when he happened to have them there briefly for cataloguing and never seen again. The most important private collection of Scottish coins disappears either to be melted down or, more likely, to be in somebody else's collection. Quote
azda Posted October 12, 2013 Posted October 12, 2013 Something I'm always afraid of when I do coin shows etc. Unfortunately it happens, I do remember of a small dealer a few years ago who had a large chunk of his stock stolen. Alarmingly and although nothing was proven, the word 'on the street' was that another dealer was the culprit. A good example of something similar is Lord Stewartby's collection. Stolen from his house when he happened to have them there briefly for cataloguing and never seen again. The most important private collection of Scottish coins disappears either to be melted down or, more likely, to be in somebody else's collection.Yes and he was going to donate these to the Scottish Museum Quote
NRP Posted October 12, 2013 Posted October 12, 2013 Something I'm always afraid of when I do coin shows etc. Unfortunately it happens, I do remember of a small dealer a few years ago who had a large chunk of his stock stolen. Alarmingly and although nothing was proven, the word 'on the street' was that another dealer was the culprit.Yes I have to say it is always a worry especially when we do the London shows and it's an over nighter!!! Birmingham tomorrow so I will have to keep checking my rear view mirror on the way back to make sure I am not being followed!!!! Quote
TomGoodheart Posted October 12, 2013 Posted October 12, 2013 (edited) Yes I have to say it is always a worry especially when we do the London shows and it's an over nighter!!! Birmingham tomorrow so I will have to keep checking my rear view mirror on the way back to make sure I am not being followed!!!!From Lloyd's website:On Tuesday 8th October I was followed back from Abergavenny market and robbed [ this is the 3rd time that I have been followed from a show ]. Its becoming a common problem for dealers of all kinds and may change the way we operate - I am certainly cutting out many of my shows as a stall holder [ I may still be a visitor ] and so ask my customers to order from the web site rather than wait to see stock at a show. I have marked the stolen coins on the site as accurately as I can - there will be a few errors as my note pad, cheque books and pay in book were also taken plus the usual human forgetfulness and error. It will be 99% correct. Edited October 12, 2013 by TomGoodheart Quote
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