declanwmagee Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 i dont even know what they look like to find themD of DEI to a beadL of HALF to a bead Quote
Peter Posted February 28, 2011 Posted February 28, 2011 i dont even know what they look like to find themD of DEI to a beadL of HALF to a beadReally is that a variety?I get calm sea 57 but maybe I'm missing something. Quote
declanwmagee Posted February 28, 2011 Posted February 28, 2011 (edited) i dont even know what they look like to find themD of DEI to a beadL of HALF to a beadReally is that a variety?I get calm sea 57 but maybe I'm missing something. Yep - 4 kinds of 1956 ha'penny; crossover mule of Obv 3+4, and Rev C+D, so you get:3+C F471 - C10 - D of DEI between beads, L of HALF between beads3+D F473 - R5 - D of DEI between beads, L of HALF to a bead4+C F474 - R12 - D of DEI to a bead, L of HALF between beads4+D F475 - R3 - D of DEI to a bead, L of HALF to a beadPeck doesn't distinguish, they're all 2513 to him.I've only ever seen 3+C. Edited February 28, 2011 by declanwmagee Quote
argentumandcoins Posted February 28, 2011 Posted February 28, 2011 I assume there is also a big difference with winning an auction and paying immediately compared to waiting for the sellers invioce before paying. I know if I think I've made a steal I bang in the payment before the seller has had time to think about it. Picked up a UNC 1956 1/2d F475 the other day for $5, was on the edge of my seat until it arrived.lol.Lucky sod. I've never even SEEN one of those 1956 varieties. One of the dealers who uses this forum has a 473 and 475 on his website. Quote
Bernie Posted February 28, 2011 Posted February 28, 2011 I assume there is also a big difference with winning an auction and paying immediately compared to waiting for the sellers invioce before paying. I know if I think I've made a steal I bang in the payment before the seller has had time to think about it. Picked up a UNC 1956 1/2d F475 the other day for $5, was on the edge of my seat until it arrived.lol.Lucky sod. I've never even SEEN one of those 1956 varieties. One of the dealers who uses this forum has a 473 and 475 on his website.I believe that the F474 is extremely rare, Quote
Peckris Posted February 28, 2011 Posted February 28, 2011 i dont even know what they look like to find themThe short answer is this :One variety has the obverse that is identical to the 1968 (dated 1967) "wide rim" halfpenny; the rim is much wider but also the I of DEI points between two beads instead of at one.Another variety has the long reverse teeth as on one of the two 1954 reverse types.There may be other differences, but that's the quick way to spot them. Quote
argentumandcoins Posted February 28, 2011 Posted February 28, 2011 I assume there is also a big difference with winning an auction and paying immediately compared to waiting for the sellers invioce before paying. I know if I think I've made a steal I bang in the payment before the seller has had time to think about it. Picked up a UNC 1956 1/2d F475 the other day for $5, was on the edge of my seat until it arrived.lol.Lucky sod. I've never even SEEN one of those 1956 varieties. One of the dealers who uses this forum has a 473 and 475 on his website.I believe that the F474 is extremely rare,That one is in his collection Quote
ski Posted February 28, 2011 Posted February 28, 2011 1968 (dated 1967) "wide rim" halfpenny............huh...... i cant get my head round all this bead stuff......give me an easy xxri anyday Quote
Peckris Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 1968 (dated 1967) "wide rim" halfpenny............huh...... i cant get my head round all this bead stuff......give me an easy xxri anyday If you look at ALL Lizzie halfpenny obverses they will have the same narrow width rim and the I of DEI points to a very obvious bead. Once you see a "1968" halfpenny, the difference is quite clear - the rim is much wider, and the I of DEI to a space just confirms it. Quote
Gary D Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 I assume there is also a big difference with winning an auction and paying immediately compared to waiting for the sellers invioce before paying. I know if I think I've made a steal I bang in the payment before the seller has had time to think about it. Picked up a UNC 1956 1/2d F475 the other day for $5, was on the edge of my seat until it arrived.lol.Lucky sod. I've never even SEEN one of those 1956 varieties. One of the dealers who uses this forum has a 473 and 475 on his website.I believe that the F474 is extremely rare,That one is in his collection Here's mine Quote
Accumulator Posted March 3, 2011 Author Posted March 3, 2011 The 1827 penny arrived and it's actually quite nice in hand: Quote
RLC35 Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 Accum,Nice 1827. It's hard to find one as nice as that! Most have a lot of heavy pitting! Quote
SionGilbey Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 Accum,Nice 1827. It's hard to find one as nice as that! Most have a lot of heavy pitting!The seller has another couple in similar condition! Quote
azda Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 Accum,Nice 1827. It's hard to find one as nice as that! Most have a lot of heavy pitting!He must be churning them out, does'nt it seem odd that the Same seller would have so many?The seller has another couple in similar condition! Quote
davidrj Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 He must be churning them out, does'nt it seem odd that the Same seller would have so many?Maybe he went to China for his last holiday! Quote
Accumulator Posted March 3, 2011 Author Posted March 3, 2011 Accum,Nice 1827. It's hard to find one as nice as that! Most have a lot of heavy pitting!The seller has another couple in similar condition!Yes I noticed that! This one's a solid VF in my opinion and he originally listed it £650, then later at £550 so quite happy with what I paid in the end. Quote
Peckris Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 The 1827 penny arrived and it's actually quite nice in hand:Yes, very nice!Accum,Nice 1827. It's hard to find one as nice as that! Most have a lot of heavy pitting!The seller has another couple in similar condition!Ah, but rather more than your bargain coin Quote
Accumulator Posted March 3, 2011 Author Posted March 3, 2011 The 1827 penny arrived and it's actually quite nice in hand:Yes, very nice!Accum,Nice 1827. It's hard to find one as nice as that! Most have a lot of heavy pitting!The seller has another couple in similar condition!Ah, but rather more than your bargain coin Yes indeed Peckris! Quote
ski Posted March 4, 2011 Posted March 4, 2011 If you look at ALL Lizzie halfpenny obverses they will have the same narrow width rim and the I of DEI points to a very obvious bead. Once you see a "1968" halfpenny, the difference is quite clear - the rim is much wider, and the I of DEI to a space just confirms it. please please please excuse my ignorance and my apologies for going back off track slightly.these halfpennys are actually dated 1967 but you call em 1968's right, because the i points to a space.also ive seen pictures here of 4 different reverses of i think 1956 halfpenny, the pics great.....but could someone please talk me through the differences as theyre not so obvious to the untrained eye. Quote
declanwmagee Posted March 4, 2011 Posted March 4, 2011 Have a look through Page 2 of this very thread, Ski! Quote
ski Posted March 4, 2011 Posted March 4, 2011 okay i missed that description...thanxbut why a 67 varient is called 68? Quote
Gary D Posted March 4, 2011 Posted March 4, 2011 okay i missed that description...thanxbut why a 67 varient is called 68?I must agree as it's the 1st time I've heard it called that. I guess as although 1967 was the last year of mintage minting went on after 1967 to supply demand until 1971. I assume Obv 4 is considered to be post 1967. Quote
Peckris Posted March 4, 2011 Posted March 4, 2011 okay i missed that description...thanxbut why a 67 varient is called 68?Sorry, that's not used by everyone in the hobby, perhaps just a few? It's because those didn't appear until 1968, though by then all predecimal coins were dated 1967. And of course the halfpenny was demonetised in 1969, so the appearance of a new variety in 1968 makes it a '1968 halfpenny' Sort of. Sorry if I confused you! Quote
1949threepence Posted March 4, 2011 Posted March 4, 2011 The 1827 penny arrived and it's actually quite nice in hand:Very, very nice, Accumulator Quote
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