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[VickySilver]

Peck, if that 26ME is only VF in your book, please let me know when you have coins to sell. LOL. Seriously, though, look at the rim and ear, fields, etc...a lot of what may look like obv. wear is in the strike methinks and would like to have all of my VFs to look as nice.

[azda]

I would have said VF+ myself, certainly no AUNC. Does this man ever get embaressed by his overgrading and what does the people that buy from him think when it arrives, clearly his feedback is pushing him along

[Red Riley]

Peck, if that 26ME is only VF in your book, please let me know when you have coins to sell. LOL. Seriously, though, look at the rim and ear, fields, etc...a lot of what may look like obv. wear is in the strike methinks and would like to have all of my VFs to look as nice.

I would have to say that with their shallow portraiture and uniformly dark patina, 26MEs are among the hardest coins to photograph successfully. Perhaps Ski could give us some advice!

[Gary]

Too bad about the grading, and 831 seems a bit high though 750 perhaps not?

It's not that much better than VF! Perhaps between VF and EF at most. I'd rate it a £250 - £300 coin.

agree with Peckris on this one, GVF at a push NEF..... certainly not AU

[Peckris]

Peck, if that 26ME is only VF in your book, please let me know when you have coins to sell. LOL. Seriously, though, look at the rim and ear, fields, etc...a lot of what may look like obv. wear is in the strike methinks and would like to have all of my VFs to look as nice.

I thought there might be a discussion on my grading, so I captured the image ...

ok, here we go. (Judged purely on the reverse - as you say, the obverse is harder to rate on a 1926ME)

1. Britannia's trident fingers are blurring together

2. The helmet where it edges the face is completely worn

3. The hand on the shield is quite worn too - too much for EF

4. The completeness of the shield design is misleading - it can be intact right down to F

5. The folds of Britannia's gown across her lap and by the shield is blurred - much too heavy wear for EF

6. Her right breast is flat (I'm not talking about her bra size )

The obverse isn't going to be any better - in fact that series usually wore quicker on the obverse than it did the reverse.

I'd go GVF no problem. But that's still only a £300 - £350 coin IMO.

[Red Riley]

I thought there might be a discussion on my grading, so I captured the image ...

ok, here we go. (Judged purely on the reverse - as you say, the obverse is harder to rate on a 1926ME)

1. Britannia's trident fingers are blurring together

2. The helmet where it edges the face is completely worn

3. The hand on the shield is quite worn too - too much for EF

4. The completeness of the shield design is misleading - it can be intact right down to F

5. The folds of Britannia's gown across her lap and by the shield is blurred - much too heavy wear for EF

6. Her right breast is flat (I'm not talking about her bra size )

The obverse isn't going to be any better - in fact that series usually wore quicker on the obverse than it did the reverse.

I'd go GVF no problem. But that's still only a £300 - £350 coin IMO.

This coin has wear wear in odd places, the right hand and drapery to the right of the shield which is actually unusual whereas the visor doesn't show that much wear. The shoulder is quite bold and although the breast is comparatively flat, this is an area that can often be weakly struck. After due consideration I would class it as NEF, the obverse probably being much the same given the comparative completeness of the ear. But as I said before, AU it ain't!

[ski]

ive never seen a 26me let alone tried to photograph one, however i would add that i personally think the image was quite good in that it captured the lack of detail in the obverse very well. Whether that lack of detail is down to wear or a weak strike, i will leave to those who know more about that penny, but i dont think it was down to a poor image.

anyone wanna send me their 1926me to photograph?

[azda]

ive never seen a 26me let alone tried to photograph one, however i would add that i personally think the image was quite good in that it captured the lack of detail in the obverse very well. Whether that lack of detail is down to wear or a weak strike, i will leave to those who know more about that penny, but i dont think it was down to a poor image.

anyone wanna send me their 1926me to photograph?

Ski, if you go onto Colin Cookes website and look at part 2 of the Workman sale there was a 26 ME in that sale, in fact, here it is. Now you can see the difference between an ebay sellers AU and a real AU

Edited December 22, 2010 by azda

[Colin G.]

ive never seen a 26me let alone tried to photograph one, however i would add that i personally think the image was quite good in that it captured the lack of detail in the obverse very well. Whether that lack of detail is down to wear or a weak strike, i will leave to those who know more about that penny, but i dont think it was down to a poor image.

anyone wanna send me their 1926me to photograph?

Ski, if you go onto Colin Cookes website and look at part 2 of the Workman sale there was a 26 ME in that sale, in fact, here it is. Now you can see the difference between an ebay sellers AU and a real AU

In fairness the one on Colin Cooke's is described as Choice Uncirculated with full lustre, there will always be a whole raft of difference between almost UNC and Choice UNC

[Peckris]

ive never seen a 26me let alone tried to photograph one, however i would add that i personally think the image was quite good in that it captured the lack of detail in the obverse very well. Whether that lack of detail is down to wear or a weak strike, i will leave to those who know more about that penny, but i dont think it was down to a poor image.

anyone wanna send me their 1926me to photograph?

Ski, if you go onto Colin Cookes website and look at part 2 of the Workman sale there was a 26 ME in that sale, in fact, here it is. Now you can see the difference between an ebay sellers AU and a real AU

In fairness the one on Colin Cooke's is described as Choice Uncirculated with full lustre, there will always be a whole raft of difference between almost UNC and Choice UNC

Yeah, but some of us take Colin Cooke's "Choice Uncirculated with full lustre" with a healthy pinch of salt

[1949threepence]

And here's one fom Sid the cleaner, 1926 ME Penny, quoted as UNC.....aye righty oh

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230564236263&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fshop.ebay.co.uk%3A80%2F%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dp4712.m570.l1313%26_nkw%3D230564236263%26_sacat%3DSee-All-Categories%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1

I'd go GVF on this one. It lacks the crispness needed for a straight EF in my view, and note the lack of hair detail in the moustache.

[Colin G.]

Yeah, but some of us take Colin Cooke's "Choice Uncirculated with full lustre" with a healthy pinch of salt

I know where you are coming from, but it is always difficult to tell from a photo when they state that the lustre is toning. It can very often give the appearance of not being there when it is, but has started to tone.

[Peckris]

Yeah, but some of us take Colin Cooke's "Choice Uncirculated with full lustre" with a healthy pinch of salt

I know where you are coming from, but it is always difficult to tell from a photo when they state that the lustre is toning. It can very often give the appearance of not being there when it is, but has started to tone.

True. True. But having bought from them in the past I've learned to downgrade slightly (though rarely disappointed in the coins themselves, I hasten to add)

[Colin G.]

True. True. But having bought from them in the past I've learned to downgrade slightly (though rarely disappointed in the coins themselves, I hasten to add)

Agree whole heartedly, always been pleased with my purchases too

[HistoryTreasures]

ROFL!!!!!

WOT?

WOT kind of English is that?

By 'eck we have fun on this forum!

[ski]

ive seen another 1926me on ebay......starting price £1000 im amazed!!!!!.

[Coppers]

ive seen another 1926me on ebay......starting price £1000 im amazed!!!!!.

Speaking of amazing prices -- can any of you penny specialists explain the current high bid on this one?

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[azda]

Buhead prices going crazy especially for top Grades. If you check spink there is 16 beaded varieties listed out of those, half Run into 4 figures in unc and only 3 are less than 500 in unc, so its Safe to assume its the die pairing of the coin

[azda]

Its actually 1 + B. So its doubled its book price already

[davidrj]

Its actually 1 + B. So its doubled its book price already

Yes Freeman 6, Gouby 1860E

Gouby has £500 in AU75

[azda]

Are those up to Date Gouby prices David? As we've seen so many time, bunheads in Top grades are flying at the moment.

Spink however lists it at 875GBP but even now its double Book price, so even i'm Not getting why this price has virtually doubled Spinks estimate

[azda]

The winning bidder On this is actually the guy who bought the 1869 Penny from him last month, he's an Ausrralian patrickc888, something like that

[declanwmagee]

The winning bidder On this is actually the guy who bought the 1869 Penny from him last month, he's an Ausrralian patrickc888, something like that

must have been happy then!

[azda]

The winning bidder On this is actually the guy who bought the 1869 Penny from him last month, he's an Ausrralian patrickc888, something like that

must have been happy then!

Well here's my theory. I reckon that classic british coins is actually shill bidding as he knows people with deep pockets, hence the fact all his auctions are now private, why else would a coin with a value of only 850 be now at double book price, it makes no sense and isn't an ultra rare coin, just my theory anyway

[Beebman]

The winning bidder On this is actually the guy who bought the 1869 Penny from him last month, he's an Ausrralian patrickc888, something like that

must have been happy then!

Well here's my theory. I reckon that classic british coins is actually shill bidding as he knows people with deep pockets, hence the fact all his auctions are now private, why else would a coin with a value of only 850 be now at double book price, it makes no sense and isn't an ultra rare coin, just my theory anyway

If you study Britannia's shield closely there appears to be nothing in the top left or bottom right quadrants - but is it just some sort of weak strike?