hibernianscribe Posted October 17, 2017 Posted October 17, 2017 37 minutes ago, secret santa said: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VICTORIAN-BRONZE-PENNY-KING-GEORGE-1917-VARIOUS-DATES-AVAILABLE-SEE-BELOW-/382253764824?hash=item59001990d8:g:VYsAAOSwFjlZuOSU Title says it all !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Another seller using one of those blurry cameras - to be avoided! Quote
hibernianscribe Posted October 17, 2017 Posted October 17, 2017 I imagine details of this site may well have been posted before. However, even so it's a shocking reminder regarding what is coming out of China these days - it's mind boggling!! https://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?site=glo&g=y&SearchText=replica+coins&needQuery=n&page=1 Quote
zookeeperz Posted October 17, 2017 Posted October 17, 2017 4 hours ago, mrbadexample said: Get yerself a bit of quality: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VERY-RARE-LOW-TIDE-HALF-PENNY-OF-1902-EDWARD-II-/253212495962?hash=item3af4a4105a:g:b7kAAOSwDmBY4ktS Isn't that the excessively rare Tsunami high tide with halloween pumpkin essay mark? 1 Quote
mrbadexample Posted October 17, 2017 Posted October 17, 2017 2 hours ago, zookeeperz said: Isn't that the excessively rare Tsunami high tide with halloween pumpkin essay mark? No mate, no. It's low tide, innit? Says so on the listing. Quote
Unwilling Numismatist Posted October 17, 2017 Posted October 17, 2017 Blimey, I have a whole pile of those rare ones.... Quote
HistoricCoinage Posted October 18, 2017 Posted October 18, 2017 Convenient 'weak spot' where I expect WRL was on the reverse... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HENRY-8TH-VIII-STUNNING-PORTRAIT-POSTHUMOUS-SILVER-HAMMERED-GROAT-COIN-RARE-/272889438975?hash=item3f897a62ff:g:g4EAAOSwEthZ5G8y Quote
hibernianscribe Posted October 18, 2017 Posted October 18, 2017 I agree, looks quite dodgy to me as well. Quote
Ukstu Posted October 19, 2017 Posted October 19, 2017 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1562-Queen-Elizabeth-1st-hammered-six-pence-Coin/272892989409 Quote
will1976 Posted October 19, 2017 Posted October 19, 2017 25 minutes ago, Ukstu said: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1562-Queen-Elizabeth-1st-hammered-six-pence-Coin/272892989409 Reported that one. I might make it my mission to weed out same fakes on the bay today as I'm waiting in for a delivery lol Quote
zookeeperz Posted October 19, 2017 Posted October 19, 2017 (edited) 37 minutes ago, will1976 said: Reported that one. I might make it my mission to weed out same fakes on the bay today as I'm waiting in for a delivery lol I went down this road a few months back with the scammers and the error 2017 £1 misprinted date 2016. Misprinted 1.5 billion of them lols. But the sellers I reported but only after I politely contacted them and explained the real story and was ignored or slated lol. But they are all still selling. Ebay doesn't care. This is a quote " if you feel a coin is fake call the police to verify this". Like when did the police become coin appraisers . Long and short of it is. Pass the buck to someone else they are only interested in their % from sales matters not what the item is or how it is sourced ,fake or genuine. Edited October 19, 2017 by zookeeperz dyslexic spelling tantrum Quote
will1976 Posted October 19, 2017 Posted October 19, 2017 31 minutes ago, zookeeperz said: I went down this road a few months back with the scammers and the error 2017 £1 misprinted date 2016. Misprinted 1.5 billion of them lols. But the sellers I reported but only after I politely contacted them and explained the real story and was ignored or slated lol. But they are all still selling. Ebay doesn't care. This is a quote " if you feel a coin is fake call the police to verify this". Like when did the police become coin appraisers . Long and short of it is. Pass the buck to someone else they are only interested in their % from sales matters not what the item is or how it is sourced ,fake or genuine. Sadly I know this is true, I'm just pleased that what I collect hasn't (as yet) been faked. As you say it all boils down to eBays bottom line and what % they can make Quote
declan03 Posted October 19, 2017 Posted October 19, 2017 At least with you guys at the helm, about 80% of the fakes we report are withdrawn from sale. Saves some amateur collector adding a fake to their collection and it also kind of disuades these scammers from trying to sell more of them. Keep up the good work. Its interesting to see what these fakes look like. 2 Quote
newheart Posted October 19, 2017 Posted October 19, 2017 I bought a British token on eBay that turned out to be a recent copy. I opened a "not as described case" and won. So if you felt brave enough, for a repeat offender you could order one for a pittance then open a dispute and leave appropriate feedback. You would need pretty good evidence, so it would be a bit risky! Quote
hibernianscribe Posted October 19, 2017 Posted October 19, 2017 6 hours ago, Ukstu said: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1562-Queen-Elizabeth-1st-hammered-six-pence-Coin/272892989409 Reported too. Quote
RLC35 Posted October 19, 2017 Posted October 19, 2017 47 minutes ago, hibernianscribe said: Reported too. Removed, due to error in listing..... 1 Quote
mrbadexample Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PENNY-EDWARD-VII-1907-FINE-/192340494977?hash=item2cc8630a81:g:XvUAAOSwDk5T6PnG http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PENNY-GEORGE-V-1920-VF-/192340494980?hash=item2cc8630a84:g:YygAAOSwPK1ZQ-ZL "I am not a coin dealer but am selling surplus coins from my collection.I try to be as accurate as possible on grade description." Quote
Rob Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 1 hour ago, mrbadexample said: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PENNY-EDWARD-VII-1907-FINE-/192340494977?hash=item2cc8630a81:g:XvUAAOSwDk5T6PnG http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PENNY-GEORGE-V-1920-VF-/192340494980?hash=item2cc8630a84:g:YygAAOSwPK1ZQ-ZL "I am not a coin dealer but am selling surplus coins from my collection.I try to be as accurate as possible on grade description." It's all part of the ebay learning experience. If you can send it back when not as described, but nobody does, then it must be accurately described, right? There has been a number of people come on here over the years who had to recalibrate their grading, and there will be others in the future too. It's easy for people to think they have a high grade coin when they compare with other examples on ebay or the example they have just upgraded. The half decent coin in their hands may not be UNC, but has to be close enough to call it EF A statistic that sellers studiously avoid is that one whereby only a miniscule fraction of one per cent of coins are genuinely uncirculated. Sellers up the grade because they are merely pandering to the market that demands 'uncirculated' coins and to fill the demand this requires flexi-grade - the suit anybody description. Quote
Ukstu Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1562-coin-queen-elizabeth-1-not-hammered/122766171510 Quote
Rob Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 54 minutes ago, Ukstu said: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1562-coin-queen-elizabeth-1-not-hammered/122766171510 Properly described as not hammered. Should probably also say not milled either. But cast doesn't sell very well when they shouldn't be. 1 Quote
DaveG38 Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 And the 'COPY' and 'WRL' stamps are both there on the reverse, but both are deliberately, no doubt, photographed upside down. 1 Quote
Ukstu Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 Its not the first time for that seller either. They are frequently listing those Ancestors pewter sixpences as geniune. Clearly out to deceive. Quote
zookeeperz Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 5 hours ago, Rob said: It's all part of the ebay learning experience. If you can send it back when not as described, but nobody does, then it must be accurately described, right? There has been a number of people come on here over the years who had to recalibrate their grading, and there will be others in the future too. It's easy for people to think they have a high grade coin when they compare with other examples on ebay or the example they have just upgraded. The half decent coin in their hands may not be UNC, but has to be close enough to call it EF A statistic that sellers studiously avoid is that one whereby only a miniscule fraction of one per cent of coins are genuinely uncirculated. Sellers up the grade because they are merely pandering to the market that demands 'uncirculated' coins and to fill the demand this requires flexi-grade - the suit anybody description. I think his attributing skills are spot on as one is F and the other VF i'll leave you guess what the letters really stand for lols Quote
hibernianscribe Posted October 22, 2017 Posted October 22, 2017 7 hours ago, Rob said: Properly described as not hammered. Should probably also say not milled either. But cast doesn't sell very well when they shouldn't be. It's been pulled! 2 Quote
declan03 Posted October 22, 2017 Posted October 22, 2017 Gosh, that was a powerful can of lager!! I,m starting to see double!! ?http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1708-Queen-Anne-silver-three-penny-coin/122758009027?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649 1 Quote
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