Paulus Posted October 12, 2013 Posted October 12, 2013 I am just wondering what 'pretend' process the TPG must be going through to 'authenticate' it and 'grade' it! What are the terms of reference?? All seems very meaningless to me, but as long as the submitter is happy ... ! Quote
Coinery Posted October 12, 2013 Posted October 12, 2013 I am just wondering what 'pretend' process the TPG must be going through to 'authenticate' it and 'grade' it! What are the terms of reference?? All seems very meaningless to me, but as long as the submitter is happy ... !The submitter could well be the TPGC itself? You know how CGS love to rattle out those mint state 1967 pennies! Quote
azda Posted October 12, 2013 Posted October 12, 2013 I didn't realise the TPGs slab fantasy coins as well http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1936-Great-Britain-Silver-Sovereign-NGC-PF-66-Ult-Cameo-/310767050789?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item485b28e025Oh ffs!!! Anything for a dollar Quote
Paulus Posted October 12, 2013 Posted October 12, 2013 I am just wondering what 'pretend' process the TPG must be going through to 'authenticate' it and 'grade' it! What are the terms of reference?? All seems very meaningless to me, but as long as the submitter is happy ... !The submitter could well be the TPGC itself? You know how CGS love to rattle out those mint state 1967 pennies! That's very true Stuart! I have a very too trusting nature and tend to take things at face value too much! Both London Coins and The London Coin Company churn out slabbed 'Cameo' 'Early Strikes' and the like by the hundred as soon as they can obtain them from whatever mint! Quote
Coinery Posted October 12, 2013 Posted October 12, 2013 Tch, what a cheek! I ask you!310767665988 Quote
HistoricCoinage Posted October 12, 2013 Posted October 12, 2013 Link.Wow. She looks...different. Quote
Paulus Posted October 12, 2013 Posted October 12, 2013 Tch, what a cheek! I ask you!310767665988http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/310767665988?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_sacat%3D0%26_from%3DR40%26_nkw%3D310767665988%26_rdc%3D1No wonder she never got married! Early example of a he-she? Quote
Rob Posted October 12, 2013 Posted October 12, 2013 Tch, what a cheek! I ask you!310767665988http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/310767665988?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_sacat%3D0%26_from%3DR40%26_nkw%3D310767665988%26_rdc%3D1No wonder she never got married! Early example of a he-she?The only clear legend is REX - which is a bit of a giveaway. No? Quote
Paulus Posted October 12, 2013 Posted October 12, 2013 Tch, what a cheek! I ask you!310767665988http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/310767665988?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_sacat%3D0%26_from%3DR40%26_nkw%3D310767665988%26_rdc%3D1No wonder she never got married! Early example of a he-she?The only clear legend is REX - which is a bit of a giveaway. No?Indeed so, should be enough of a clue, unless back then you could not change your regnal attribution (following a sex change)!I found it interesting to learn that under the new change to the royal law of succession, the first born is the first in line to the throne (rather than the first born male).If this rule had been in force in Victoria's time we would have has Kaiser Wilhelm as our king (Kaiser BIll!!) (rather than Edward VII), since he was the first born of Victoria's first born, who died before Victoria. Wonder how different the 'Great War' would have been then! Quote
Red Riley Posted October 13, 2013 Posted October 13, 2013 I didn't realise the TPGs slab fantasy coins as well http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1936-Great-Britain-Silver-Sovereign-NGC-PF-66-Ult-Cameo-/310767050789?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item485b28e025I know it's not meant to be taken seriously (or perhaps it is?) but that's one god-ugly coin. I've occasionally bought them as part of bulk lots but they're on e-bay the next day. I just can't stand to keep them with real coins! Quote
azda Posted October 13, 2013 Posted October 13, 2013 So what do we think of the price 161118925656 Quote
Peter Posted October 13, 2013 Posted October 13, 2013 Oh DearAnother bit of pewter.I emailed the seller 6 days ago.Last time I emailed a buyer of a dodgy coin ebay sent me a warning. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1562-SILVER-ELIZABETH-SIXPENCE-MILLED-COIN-ORIGINAL-/390671525013?ViewItem=&ssPageName=ADME%3AX%3AAAQ%3AGB%3A1123&item=390671525013&nma=true&si=bITEbbYdlASa1xOdfU3Ub2O0L2A%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 Quote
Coinery Posted October 13, 2013 Posted October 13, 2013 (edited) Not bad considering it's not even a sixpence OR milled! It's difficult to have sympathy for someone who blindly bids on eBay coins without even the basic read-around to distinguish denomination and differences between hammered and milled! Even though it's a pewter coin, it's still a reasonable representation of type, ie a 'hammered' threepence!Interestingly, about three months ago, I got my second warning from eBay for 'unsolicited emails' when I sent a polite and, what I thought, helpful link to a genuine example of type (not one of mine, I hasten to add). After my previous (dog cage) suspended sentence from eBay, I now just race in there, grab what I can, and get out, knowing I'll need a good shower to rid myself of the dirt afterwards! Edit: just realised Dave's and Peter's coins aren't the same...hence ' not bad' I was referring to £58 for the pewter 3D...terrible isn't it? I just paid less for a really nice genuine Rose/Cross-Crosslet penny! (glad Rob only paid it a passing glance!) Edited October 13, 2013 by Coinery Quote
RLC35 Posted October 13, 2013 Posted October 13, 2013 So what do we think of the price161118925656That seems a little steep, doesn't it? Quote
Coinery Posted October 13, 2013 Posted October 13, 2013 So what do we think of the price 161118925656I've sold three now in excess of £200, and a couple just under, I think they are more popular than people give them credit for! Here's the last one I sold!http://george-coins.co.uk/UNCAU-Edward-VII-LOW-TIDE-1902-Penny-P3139016.aspx Quote
Rob Posted October 13, 2013 Posted October 13, 2013 I just paid less for a really nice genuine Rose/Cross-Crosslet penny! (glad Rob only paid it a passing glance!)That's alright. I think I waste most of my time on ebay making a note of the odd thing worth bidding on, but then forget to bid at the last moment. Not the hundred and first time I've done it, and certainly not the last. Need to get more organised. Looking at the image I would have bid on it. Quote
RLC35 Posted October 14, 2013 Posted October 14, 2013 So what do we think of the price161118925656I've sold three now in excess of £200, and a couple just under, I think they are more popular than people give them credit for!Here's the last one I sold!http://george-coins.co.uk/UNCAU-Edward-VII-LOW-TIDE-1902-Penny-P3139016.aspxNice coin Coinery. I like your price better to! LOL! Quote
azda Posted October 14, 2013 Posted October 14, 2013 So what do we think of the price 161118925656I've sold three now in excess of £200, and a couple just under, I think they are more popular than people give them credit for! Here's the last one I sold!http://george-coins.co.uk/UNCAU-Edward-VII-LOW-TIDE-1902-Penny-P3139016.aspxBeing honest Stuart £200+ is very good money as UNCs sell between £120 and £170 depending on the day, but £255 from Mr Blyth was with a helping Hand from his buddy Quote
Coinery Posted October 14, 2013 Posted October 14, 2013 Just as a point of interest, I wonder where Spink's is gathering its data from to catalogue the Low-Tide Penny at £175 EF and £325 UNC? Quote
declanwmagee Posted October 14, 2013 Posted October 14, 2013 Spinks are always way over on coins in this era. CCGB excepted, all the price guides are a bit sniffy about eBay, I suspect, and don't see it as "real" auctions, so don't see the prices achieved as "real" prices.It would be interesting, but a lot of work, to compile a price guide just from eBay, and see how it compares with the big four. I suspect it would look something like this:CCGB - about rightCoin Yearbook - too lowBritish Coins Market Values - a lot too lowSpink - way too high. Quote
azda Posted October 14, 2013 Posted October 14, 2013 (edited) CCGB 2013 has it at £200 in UNCThe 2010 was £100 in UNC, just as a thought Stuart you mentioned you've sold 3 now, so it might be that they are more common than we are led to believe, and i think you still have another on your website Edited October 14, 2013 by azda Quote
DaveG38 Posted October 14, 2013 Posted October 14, 2013 Not so much an error on the part of the seller, but I wonder why this modern item was made, but more importantly why it was struck as it was, with the threepence embedded in it and an inscription that suggests the 12 sided threepence was produced between 1937 and 1948. What happened to 1949 to 1952?http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/History-of-British-Coinage-George-VI-three-pence-1937-1948-/151143091993?pt=UK_Coins_BritishMilled_RL&hash=item2330d48f19 Quote
Rob Posted October 14, 2013 Posted October 14, 2013 Not so much an error on the part of the seller, but I wonder why this modern item was made, but more importantly why it was struck as it was, with the threepence embedded in it and an inscription that suggests the 12 sided threepence was produced between 1937 and 1948. What happened to 1949 to 1952?http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/History-of-British-Coinage-George-VI-three-pence-1937-1948-/151143091993?pt=UK_Coins_BritishMilled_RL&hash=item2330d48f19Probably looked at Spink or CCGB etc. IND IMP was dropped from 1949, so comes under a different reference number Quote
DaveG38 Posted October 14, 2013 Posted October 14, 2013 Not so much an error on the part of the seller, but I wonder why this modern item was made, but more importantly why it was struck as it was, with the threepence embedded in it and an inscription that suggests the 12 sided threepence was produced between 1937 and 1948. What happened to 1949 to 1952?http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/History-of-British-Coinage-George-VI-three-pence-1937-1948-/151143091993?pt=UK_Coins_BritishMilled_RL&hash=item2330d48f19Probably looked at Spink or CCGB etc. IND IMP was dropped from 1949, so comes under a different reference numberThere's nothing like attention to detail. Still, I guess if the Mint can use the wrong punch for the 2008 20p obverse, then I guess anything is possible. Quote
Coinery Posted October 14, 2013 Posted October 14, 2013 Spinks are always way over on coins in this era. CCGB excepted, all the price guides are a bit sniffy about eBay, I suspect, and don't see it as "real" auctions, so don't see the prices achieved as "real" prices.It would be interesting, but a lot of work, to compile a price guide just from eBay, and see how it compares with the big four. I suspect it would look something like this:CCGB - about rightCoin Yearbook - too lowBritish Coins Market Values - a lot too lowSpink - way too high.Maybe I'm just unlucky with the Spink's guide then as, whenever I see something at auction that I really want, just for me, which isn't often, it always sails WAY over the Spink guide! Quote
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